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Thread: Modern Box Siding issues
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01-23-2014, 10:39 AM #1
Modern Box Siding issues
This style of custom home has gotten more popular in a specific segment of our local community, and I've been struggling with how to get the 3d image to display correctly, or at least so it looks good.
This style of siding is odd, in that there are panels that are large and vary in size, with the joints aligning with windows and doors as opposed to just a grid of some kind that could be displayed with a nice bump map texture. Stucco version have the control joints in very deliberate and specific points and the only way I could find to do this was to use a standard stucco wall, and then use the Psolid in section view applied in the pattern I wanted. It looks perfect, but it is very time consuming to do, throw in an angled wall or two and you've got a very tough challenge.
Do you guys have any bright idea's?
Also, the horizontal spaced wood siding is very, very similar to how we do deck planking, as a matter of fact, If I could use CA's deck tool in the vertical plane as opposed to just the horizontal deck plane, I could get a great 3d image of that type of siding, but again, all I can use is a texture file, or the molding line tool.-=JT=-
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01-23-2014, 11:31 AM #2
One way to approach would be to create a new hatch pattern, new material using that pattern and adjust using the pattern adjust and/or sizing. Then apply by creating a new wall or material region.
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01-23-2014, 11:44 AM #3
I'd use stacked Exterior Room Molding Polyline with "square" moldings and adjust the heights and elevation of each. You would need to separate the ends (gap) where vertical joints are needed - or - put in breaks and specify "no molding on this segment".
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01-23-2014, 11:55 AM #4
I think for me it depends on how regular (or not) the pattern is and how extensive the surface to be covered. For this one I made psolids as I was dealing with layout and varying color.
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01-23-2014, 12:25 PM #5
One thing I just discovered with X6 is that the Exterior Room Molding Polyline automatically has "No Molding on Selected Line" checked. It would be nice if that was only true where the Polyline was intersected by an opening (door or window). Of course that would require the Polyline to be broken at those points.
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01-28-2014, 09:23 AM #6Registered User Promoted
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If you are familiar with Blender this task is quite simple. UV unwrap the model in Blender and then add beveled joints in the normal map. Obviously if you wanted to go one step further you could create a displacement map that would actually create the geometry in the model. Renders would just take longer. Otherwise I'm afraid that psolids is probably your best bet because the joints must be aligned accurately.
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01-28-2014, 04:14 PM #7
Are you trying to make the entire panel from a psolid, or just the expansion joint? I've placed similar lines making a psolid and then turning it into glass and just insetting into the surface so as to get that small edge detail. Not to mention you will want to dimension those expansion joints so they are installed correctly.
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01-28-2014, 07:10 PM #8
X6 has a new tool that should do exactly what you want.
Use a Wall Material Region and check Cut Finish Layers of Parent Object, give it a dark color, and only a single layer.
If your external cladding has a thickness of 1", give the Wall Material Region a thickness of about 1/8" or similar.
Copy, paste, stretch, etc., as you need.
Here is a pic of the result where I have exaggerated the wall thickness and Wall Material Region size to demonstrate how it works.
PS. Note that the siding is one homogeneous material with expansion groves cut into it. It is not a series of separate panels.
The effect is the same, but this method is a lot easier than using separate panels.Glenn
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01-28-2014, 07:48 PM #9D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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01-28-2014, 07:56 PM #10
d dot,
I guess we shouldn't use the Wall Material Region tool for that because some users will probably call it a workaround and then they will want a tool that draws expansion joints in cladding.Glenn
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01-29-2014, 08:50 AM #11
Thanks Glen, I never thought of using that tool for that application, something new every day.
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01-29-2014, 09:28 AM #12
Very Nice Glenn!
Like Scott said: Stucco Expansion Joints or Tilt-up Concrete RevealsJoseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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01-29-2014, 11:13 AM #13
I never thought of using that tool for that application
Precisely why it is potentially a workaround
If there is a need for these items then a dedicated tool or setting should be created
for them.
all these "secrets" lead to frustration and annoyance with the software
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01-29-2014, 12:16 PM #14
This is all Glenn's fault. If he would stop coming up with multiple uses for tools, there would not be a problem. Now to rectify this, I believe CA should duplicate this tool two more times and rename one the STUCCO EXPANSION TOOL and the other one THE TILT UP CONC WALL TOOL.
CA, please make this so, thank you.D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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01-29-2014, 12:25 PM #15
I did a search under "Material Region" to see if CA has a training vid or even info on this new tool for X6. If CA (or someone else?) is watching this a video instruction on this would be more than helpful. I agree with Lew, how is the non-CA-pro supposed to know this.
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