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    x1.4 noted problems

    Hey all (especially our CA dudes):

    After a weekend of drawing, I am quite happy with many of the improvements. Excellent work by CA. I also note a few problems - some have been mentioned already, but if we could isolate a list for them it would be easier for CA to deal with what we are finding. Please add to this as you see fit without elaborating too much or losing focus:
    • Confirming that the F3 and F4 buttons do not work. - UPDATE. Ca has addressed this. They changed the hotkeys but you can change them back under the customize hotkeys menu.
    • "S" suspend snap while in a command is not working (bad)
    • Temp dimension lines are not finding the inside of the wall when it is an exterior wall (bad x2) - UPDATE: Spark has addressed this as a known problem and they are looking into it.


    These are what stands out. Remember we are all sort of a big Beta test group right now, and some of these issues (#3 especially) need to be fixed right away.
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    Rich,

    Holding down the "S" key does suspend snaps for me until I release it.

    I wonder if the lack of functionality for the F3 key is due to the new customizable hot keys? Since we have that new feature, it should be easy to reassign that key
    Last edited by Allen Brown; 01-14-2008 at 05:35 AM.
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    No good for me Allen - it is picking up everything no matter what. Maybe it is a setting? Something changed in the mapping?
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    Yes, that must be it...i assigned F3 as a hotkey for "file:save" and it works just like it used to.

    Maybe when the official Patch documention is released, it may described in there...but anyway, it seems to be working now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc
    Confirming that the F3 and F4 buttons do not work.
    We had to remove some old hotkeys to make the new customizable hotkeys function work. Some functions, like "Close", had multiple mappings. if you want to use the old hotkey, just reassign it in the customizable hotkeys dialog.

    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc
    "S" suspend snap while in a command is not working (bad)
    I haven't seen this complaint before. Did you remap "S" to a new hotkey?


    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc
    Temp dimension lines are not finding the inside of the wall when it is an exterior wall (bad x2)
    I don't know anything about this, but there have been some threads on it.
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    Sometimes temporary dimensions on the exterior of a building will not move the wall you are trying to move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louis
    Sometimes temporary dimensions on the exterior of a building will not move the wall you are trying to move.
    I just open a new plan in X1.4 and drew a simple "L" shaped house to play with. My temporary pop up dimensions can be used to move walls but they are going to the outside surface of the exterior walls and not the outside main layer the way it worked before.

    Not the end of the world, since the Auto Dimension tool does work correctly, but a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Kumpost
    I just open a new plan in X1.4 and drew a simple "L" shaped house to play with. My temporary pop up dimensions can be used to move walls but they are going to the outside surface of the exterior walls and not the outside main layer the way it worked before.

    Not the end of the world, since the Auto Dimension tool does work correctly, but a problem.
    http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?t=33350
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    Quote Originally Posted by louis
    Sometimes temporary dimensions on the exterior of a building will not move the wall you are trying to move.
    Such as...
    Sarah Mitchell

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    Maybe this is similar to Louis' temp dim. problem...

    If I click on an exterior wall, it will show temp. dims on the outside of the building, but not on the interior. So in the attached example, I want to move the exterior wall at the top of the picture to make the room interior a certain dimension. It doesn't give me a dimension to work with. And if I click one of the exterior walls to the right or left, it dimensions from the outside to outside only.

    And I can't find any combination of settings in the "temp dim prefs" dbx to fix this. So for the moment, I have to draw a manual dim. when I need to adjust an exterior wall based on an interior criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgirerd
    Maybe this is similar to Louis' temp dim. problem...

    If I click on an exterior wall, it will show temp. dims on the outside of the building, but not on the interior. So in the attached example, I want to move the exterior wall at the top of the picture to make the room interior a certain dimension. It doesn't give me a dimension to work with. And if I click one of the exterior walls to the right or left, it dimensions from the outside to outside only.

    And I can't find any combination of settings in the "temp dim prefs" dbx to fix this. So for the moment, I have to draw a manual dim. when I need to adjust an exterior wall based on an interior criteria.

    Christina
    Yes. No temporary dimension will be generated in that situation. If you want one, you'll have to delete your manual dimensions (hiding them will only result in them being shown when the object is selected.) There's more information on this behavior in the Reference Manual.
    Sarah Mitchell

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgirerd
    So for the moment, I have to draw a manual dim. when I need to adjust an exterior wall based on an interior criteria.

    Christina
    You could zoom in some so the dims on the exterior of the building are no longer visible, too. If a manual dim is visible (or potentially visible if its layer is turned off), then the temp won't show up.
    Sarah Mitchell

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    CTRL-S is Save, CTRL-W for Close. These are very standard in other applications and have been in Chief since V7. With the hot keys those that really don't like the standard keys can remap them to whatever they like. I think we stopped documenting these keys a couple of versions ago.
    Doug Park
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    "going to the outside surface"

    Temporary dimensions has an icon - can be placed on tool-bar - has setting for dimension layer or surface, etc. Have noticed some temp. dimensions will run parallel to a wall (when wall is selected) but not perpendicular or both and parallel does nothing for a wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BREEZE WOOD
    Have noticed some temp. dimensions will run parallel to a wall (when wall is selected) but not perpendicular or both and parallel does nothing for a wall.
    Are you sure this is not the "Show Wall Length When Editing" setting. You can find it on the Wall Defaults dbx.
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