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08-11-2012, 06:44 AM #1
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Chain link fencing
I have tried to use the chain link fencing from the library. It was not a pretty picture. First, when I tried to just drag the fence along the property line but it does not put the intermediate post in at 96" OC. So I try to transform replicate. This works ok but the property is not at 90deg so I select multiple copies. This sorta works but you end up with double post on every copy. To top it all off the gate only works if there is a wall there! I had to do a work around and forget the library items. I had to use a cylinder from the library for the top rail, half wall as a railing with balusters at 96" OC. then put the gate in. The fence fabric was from a png pattern I had in stock. Why put a gate in the library if it does not work with the fence? Why not make the fence an easy item with no work around? Chain link fence is a very common item when doing site plans. Maybe in ver 5?
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08-11-2012, 07:03 AM #2
Did you try making it as a railing wall with the Chain Link as the Panel?
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08-11-2012, 07:23 AM #3
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Joe, thanks for the suggestion. I will try this and hope it saves me some time. My comment on the uselessness of the library items still stands. Why put it in there if it does not work or intuitive to the user?
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08-11-2012, 07:43 AM #4D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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08-11-2012, 10:28 AM #5
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Joe's suggestion should work. And there are a lot of items in the library that fit your description, but they're not really meant to be used as standalone items. Cabinet doors for example, door hardware, windows, mouldings, etc. They need to be used through the appropriate DBX, and for the reasons they were created in the first place.
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08-11-2012, 03:29 PM #6
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They need to be used through the appropriate DBX, and for the reasons they were created in the first place.
Chain link gate won't fit in the chain link fence? Because is was not meant for this? Have I missed something? When I look at or use ANY program the one thing look for is how intuitive it is. Has CA been made aware of this or any similar problems and what would be their response?
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08-11-2012, 03:45 PM #7
This works exactly as it should.
To create a Chain Link Fence you simply create a Railing Wall and set it as a "Panel". Then select the Panel Type fro the Library.
Next in the Library select the type of Gate you want and place it in the "Railing Wall".
The Fence in Chief is a Wall and the Gate is a Door. It's that simple.
You can open the Fence(Wall) dbx and adjust the Posts (Newels) and the materials as needed. The attached pic show a Chain Link Fence with a gate that took me about 45 seconds to create.Joseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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08-11-2012, 05:58 PM #8
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08-11-2012, 06:04 PM #9
It doesn't mean they should be pulled directly from the library though
so how does one know the difference ???
Is there an indicator or a warning or ???
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08-11-2012, 06:31 PM #10
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08-11-2012, 06:33 PM #11
ahh !!!, so its a catch-22
you gotta know it - to know it ....
well, that's what this forum is good for
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08-11-2012, 06:53 PM #12
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That's right
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08-12-2012, 05:20 AM #13
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I see the point. Some of the items in the library can be pulled directly from the library and others are for use to modify other items, such as walls. Where in the user manual does it inform us of which ones are which? Are we on our own to try to figure this out on our own? In my opinion there should at least be a pop up window (or something) to inform a user of which ones are which. Thank goodness for this forum.
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08-12-2012, 06:35 AM #14
Actually, the Library access is often limited to those items that would be appropriate. Some Examples:
If you insert a door in a wall and then select that door and the "Library" option from the Door dbx Chief will limit your selection to Doors.
If you select a Molding Polyline and the add a molding from Library your selectionwill be limited to 2D Molding Profiles and 3D Molding Symbols.
Most of the items in the Library are Symbols that are assigned a specific category and have specific behaviors. Once you have learned the basics of Chief you will recognize what items are appropriate and how to make your own Library Items to function as you want them to.
It's important to understand Chief's main components:
1. Rooms
2. Walls
3. Doors
4. Windows
5. Cabinets
6. Appliances
7. Fixtures (Interior and Exterior)
8. Moldings (2D Profiles and 3D Symbols)
There are many more but those are the main ones and once you've mastered how they work you will be able to make Chief sing. It's just a matter of learning the basics well.Joseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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08-12-2012, 06:38 AM #15
ps: The experts here have been using Chief for many years and we're still learning. I don't think there's any way that CA could document all the fine points but there are many articles, videos and discussions in ChiefTalk that can help.
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