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    Lew, Architecture school did not teach real life when I went. I had 6 year Architecture students working for me and I had to teach them very basic stuff. Life experience is king, there's nothing better, of course this argument goes on forever.
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    Perry:

    I agree, everybody can learn from everybody

    no can know "everything"

    I would be just as interested in studying your CD's as I would an architects

    would I put more "trust" in architects - ???

    who knows - I've been know to go against the grain

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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Lew, Architecture school did not teach real life when I went. I had 6 year Architecture students working for me and I had to teach them very basic stuff. Life experience is king, there's nothing better, of course this argument goes on forever.
    This only goes on because of people who think that knowing how to build equates to knowing how to design, or vice versa. Both abilities are essential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Life experience is king, there's nothing better....
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    ...... all i'm saying is my input is just as valid as yours.
    Apparently you don't see the irony here. "Real world" experience can also blind you to new and innovative design solutions. One of the main points of going to school is to immerse yourself in pure design for a while, learn the history of your profession, etc. before your creativity gets bogged down and you start thinking it's all been done and there is never anything new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sutcac View Post
    Apparently you don't see the irony here. "Real world" experience can also blind you to new and innovative design solutions. One of the main points of going to school is to immerse yourself in pure design for a while, learn the history of your profession, etc. before your creativity gets bogged down and you start thinking it's all been done and there is never anything new.
    I started in the school of design at NCSU, And yes, It was exactly as you said, I was immersed in pure design for two years , but I found it lacking, I felt like something was missing, the science behind the creativity was void....

    I transferred to engineering to learn the science behind the design, and yet there was still something missing, and that was real life experience.

    I found that 'practical' creativity is best 'learned' from real life experiences gathered from the wealth of knowledge surrounding you. The people who use or build your designs are a valuable resource. There is a economic limit (in most cases) on what is creative vs. what is practical. It is a dilemma I was not taught in school.

    My first job was with a large Power Utility as an engineer. I spent a month with a line crew, high school educated guys out there in the field implementing the 'designs' and 'procedures' we engineers provided. These guys were a resource that I learned quickly to respect and value.

    Long story short, creativity alone is somewhat subjective (everyone has something to contribute, we just need to listen) the vast resources out there are immense, regardless of education level, regardless of background, put your education on hold and listen to the voices of 'real life experience'... we can all benefit! So I have to go with Perry's comment "Life experience is king!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sutcac View Post
    Apparently you don't see the irony here. "Real world" experience can also blind you to new and innovative design solutions. One of the main points of going to school is to immerse yourself in pure design for a while, learn the history of your profession, etc. before your creativity gets bogged down and you start thinking it's all been done and there is never anything new.
    No it doesn't, that's just silly. hopefully everyone is always learning new design techniques, I still am. Where do you think these things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Lew, Architecture school did not teach real life when I went. I had 6 year Architecture students working for me and I had to teach them very basic stuff. Life experience is king, there's nothing better, of course this argument goes on forever.

    I wish we all could be as smart as you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Lew, Architecture school did not teach real life when I went. I had 6 year Architecture students working for me and I had to teach them very basic stuff. Life experience is king, there's nothing better, of course this argument goes on forever.
    Perry,

    I think that is true for any college program. Most graduates are of limited use in the real world until they gain experience.

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