Plate on top of Masonry Wall?

[Joe Carrick]

Joe,
Would a Pony Wall do the job?
After all, that's what it is.
Masonry wall below and a 1-1/2" high plate wall on top.

Probably a lot easier than the floor route.

Hi Glenn,

I hadn't thought of that but I'll give it a try. You are definitely thinking "Outside the Box".

If the it had been anything taller than a few plate heights I would have naturally used a pony wall - go figure.

I would seem that Chief should have an option for plate(s) on top of concrete or masonry walls. This is such a common condition that it would just make sense.

Thanks, Joe

[dshall]

Hi Glenn,

I hadn't thought of that but I'll give it a try. You are definitely thinking "Outside the Box".

If the it had been anything taller than a few plate heights I would have naturally used a pony wall - go figure.

I would seem that Chief should have an option for plate(s) on top of concrete or masonry walls. This is such a common condition that it would just make sense.

Thanks, Joe

They give us the option, it is a pony wall. Remember will will want a finish covering the sill in elevation. If you don't want the finish define a wall without a finish. And with X-4 you can define the height of the top or bottom of a pony wall. A simple elegant solution without a downside that I can think of. GWWKAE.

[Joe Carrick]

They give us the option, it is a pony wall. Remember will will want a finish covering the sill in elevation. If you don't want the finish define a wall without a finish. And with X-4 you can define the height of the top or bottom of a pony wall. A simple elegant solution without a downside that I can think of. GWWKAE.

A solution - yes. But it's not what I would call elegant. Getting the Pony Wall and the Room Heights to be exactly right is a bit of a PITA. IMO anything that's a PITA isn't elegant :Sly:

[dshall]

A solution - yes. But it's not what I would call elegant. Getting the Pony Wall and the Room Heights to be exactly right is a bit of a PITA. IMO anything that's a PITA isn't elegant :Sly:

Subject: Using Pony Walls to get Sill Plates on top of masonry walls

This is what can be improved upon.... in the wall dbx we can define the ELEVATION OF LOWER WALL TOP and the HEIGHT OFF FLOOR. If you change one you changed the other, so I do not get that. This is where they missed the boat, we should be able to DEFINE ELEVATION AT TOP OF LOWER WALL or DEFINE ELEVATION OF BOTTOM OF UPPER WALL, with the option of LOCKING one or the other. This way if we raised the ceiling or lowered the floor we could still have Glenn's 1-1/2" tall sill plate.

[dshall]

in the wall dbx we can define the ELEVATION OF LOWER WALL TOP and the HEIGHT OFF FLOOR. If you change one you changed the other, so I do not get that.

Now I see the thinking, one is the HEIGHT of the wall and the other is the ABSOLUTE ELEVATION of top of lower wall, think about a pony wall on the second floor. Again I stand by the statement that we should be able to define the HEIGHT of the upper wall and that will overide the HEIGHT of lower wall as well as ABSOLUTE ELEVATION of top of lower wall.

[Joe Carrick]

Now I see the thinking, one is the HEIGHT of the wall and the other is the ABSOLUTE ELEVATION of top of lower wall, think about a pony wall on the second floor. Again I stand by the statement that we should be able to define the HEIGHT of the upper wall and that will overide the HEIGHT of lower wall as well as ABSOLUTE ELEVATION of top of lower wall.

AFLACK !!!!

I will need to study what you just said carefully. I'm not even sure you know what you mean

IAE, the height of the upper wall is defined by the height of the room. Do you really want to change that?
Or are you saying that setting the height of either wall should set the height of the other by making them add up to the height of the room?

[dshall]

AFLACK !!!!

I will need to study what you just said carefully. I'm not even sure you know what you mean

IAE, the height of the upper wall is defined by the height of the room. Do you really want to change that?
Or are you saying that setting the height of either wall should set the height of the other by making them add up to the height of the room?

Yes, I am saying setting the height of one should set the ht. of the other so they add up to the height of the room. The point is, if I know I want a 1-1/2" tall wall on top, no matter if I change the floor elevation or change the ceiling ht. I will always have the 1-1/2" tall top wall/sill plate for the CMU wall below.