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12-08-2010, 10:13 AM #1Registered User Promoted
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Rafters with Rafter Tails For pavillion
I have searched all over the content for rafters that have rafter tails like you would use for an outdoor pavaillion. I remember seeing them somewhere in the past, but now when I need them, I can not find them. Does anyone know where they are in the library.
I have seen the tails by them selves but I was hoping to find rafters that already have tails.
Thanks for all of your help in the past, you guys have really helped me with Chief
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12-08-2010, 10:43 AM #2
(Oops) "Exteriors - Rafter Tails" applied within the Build Roof Dialog. Heck you made me look, thanks!
DJPLast edited by David J. Potter; 12-08-2010 at 10:48 AM.
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12-08-2010, 11:10 AM #3Registered User Promoted
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Rafter tails
Thanks for the feedback, you are correct. After finding out where to add the rafter tail the difficult task was creating a rafter with a tail on a pavillion that has no roof. Since I went to the trouble here is what I had to do
1) Create a roof plane on my pavillion. You need to have a roof plane before you can draw a rafter. I used hidden walls to create this pavillion and bulit the walls stick by stick.
2) I had to create a flat roof (Zero degree pitch). I tried drawing a rafter with an 8 / 12 pitch but you can not change the angle of the rafter when it is drawn at a 8 /12 pitch.
3) Once I drew the rafter with the flat roof I added a rafter tail and moved it away from my roof plane.
4) Then I deleted the roof plan (don't need it any more)
5) I was only able to add a rafter tail to one end of the rafter, so I had to make a copy of the first rafter and then place them end to end to get one rafter across the whole roof.
Usng a little creativity I was able to get what I needed.
Thanks again for the help and let me know if you see a shorter way to do thisgeocoy
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12-08-2010, 07:36 PM #4
Had I known exactly what you wanted to do I would not have offered what I did offer.
When I do Arbors and atrium's I do them with poly-line solids, make the first one and then copy.
Nothing at all wrong with what you did do, I am not saying that. I am saying I prefer the older method myself.
Both work.
DJP
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12-09-2010, 07:53 AM #5
I do the same as David and create it manually so you have total contol. I did however create a library so I don't have to keep making them. If you would like the library that I have, email me. I how a sample of show I use them as well.
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12-12-2010, 07:20 AM #6Registered User Promoted
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Rafters with Rafter Tails
Interesting Comments. And yes you can email me (fvbs2010@live.com) the Rafters you have in your library. I am always looking for options and second opinions.
When I was creating the pergolla I wanted to use the framing tools within Chief as much as possible so if I wanted to I could get a list of materials used in the plan. So you first suggestion was exactly what I was looking for. Once I created one rafter the hard work is done, I copied it like you said.
If I use polylines instead of rafters will Chief know to add these to the material list. I am assuming Chief won't know what materials they really are if I just use a polyline and I don't define the material as framing members. Am I wrong about this?
See my attached file to see how it came out. The only problem I have with the attached file is there is too much blue in the Raytrace. I am going to post a string to see if I can get some help with the color scheme Raytrace is using.
Comments are much appreciated
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12-12-2010, 07:37 AM #7
I cannot find a way to make solids come into the framing materials list. Maybe a wizard will step up here and show us how.
Just did a test. Made a polyline solid beam, made its material "fir framing," put it on the roof framing layer. It shows up in a 3D-Framing view.
Ran the materials list, and it is not there.Gene Davis
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12-23-2010, 09:26 AM #8
geocoy, I think it was you that sent me an email saying that the library wasn't too helpful because when you strected the symbols, the ends lost the shape. I see that I didn't change the stretch zones in the library I sent. It's just a matter of setting stretch zones. They do work fine with the proper settings. The image posted here shows those symbols that have been stretched 3 times the size of the initial size when placed. BTW, I stretch them in elevations.
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05-15-2011, 06:50 AM #9Registered User Promoted
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Creating custom rafter tails
I created these custom rafter tails and they look great in 3D and in the elevations, BUT, for some reason they do not appear correctly when you look at them in a plan view (top down). They appear to be lying on their side. I tried playing with the display axis and could not figure out how to get them to appear correctly. Anyone know what I might be doing wrong.
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01-22-2014, 08:05 PM #10Registered User
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Would you email me the library? Thanks! bbal_gurl_15@hotmail.com
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01-22-2014, 08:51 PM #11
Tommy,
I love that grey mottled texture on the walls.
Is it a Chief texture?
If not, is there any chance of getting a copy?Glenn
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