Roof Line

[BREEZE WOOD]

- For a second facial I use a converted gutter but for a squared roof line the first board (gutter) is plumb - have to redo each corner - any other way to have double facial raked roof line?

[Gene Davis]

I've been wondering the same thing.

I'm just guessing, and am a newbie, besides, so consider the source.

If a gutter, in essence, is just a molding run to all of a roof's horizontal sections of its p'line, cannot you create the stepped fascia you want as a molding shape, then run it as your "gutter?"

A sketch is attached.

[joey3032]

cannot you create the stepped fascia you want as a molding shape, then run it as your "gutter?"

Yes you can. I do that alot..just don't have a sample with me right now....go figure

[BREEZE WOOD]

- The problem is it is a rake return - the gutter (trim) has not an option for square cut or run at an angle.....that I am aware of, am still working on it.

[Glenn Woodward]

Mike,

You can draw any "gutter" profile you want.
Draw what you want, save it as a Molding to the library.
In the roof defaults dbx, assign the "gutter" molding as the gutter.
Or select your gutter (display and unlock the Roofs, Gutter layer first), and then change the Molding on the Molding tab.

[BREEZE WOOD]

Glenn - thanks, I have done that but the problem is the roof line is a rake return and the gutter (trim - 2nd fascia) has no option for rake return/set angle and remains vertical to the ground....

[Glenn Woodward]

Mike,

Are you drawing your trim Molding at the angle you want, or are you drawing it vetically?

[BREEZE WOOD]

Good question - have it vertical - will try 7/12 - if the gutter allows for it - just need to get back to it....

[Gene Davis]

Mike, I tried drawing a p'line at the angle required for getting a molding on the roof edge. It worked OK.

I learned here that you cannot do a molding profile unless one edge is dead plumb, so I fudged in a little plumb edge somewhere. I also learned that the molding "attaches" at what I call the framing line of the roof. It goes to the junction of the rafter line and the outside corner of the subfascia.

Thus, when in place, it leaves the edge of the roof sheathing exposed. As best as I can tell in my v.10 Chief, the roof sheathing is uneditable, and is 9/16" thick.

So attached here is a shape that I might try. I drew it in Sketchup, which I still find easier to use than Chief CAD. This one is for a 6:12 roof with 6-3/4 as the spec for the subfascia width.

[BREEZE WOOD]

- unless one edge is dead plumb, so I fudged in a little plumb edge somewhere.

Thanks Gene and rather smart the "plumb edge" - will try soon - of course some of this is just why CA doesn't account for more than one fascia brd. is a little puzzeling...the gutter as #2 but where is the scocia (sp? 1x2)?

Edit: I guess the 1x2 could be part of the trim.

[Curtis Johnson]

Gene:

I have investigated many roofs in CA and always found the default sheathing thickness to be 7/16".

[Gene Davis]

Curtis, you are correct, of course. I must have been born metric, because I cannot do fractions very well.

7/16" is correct, but how, praytell, does one change that default roof sheathing thickness to something else, in v.10?

[Curtis Johnson]

Gene:

Until CA changes how the program builds roofs I think we are stuck with the present thickness. If I need to have a thicker sheathing material, I just do it with annotation on the roof framing plan and/or with details showing the roof assembly in cross section.