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  1. #31
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    Glenn:

    if a user is looking for Stucco Expansion Joints or Tilt-up Concrete Reveals

    they may not know or think to use Wall Material Region

    If they do a search in the user manual and can't find
    Stucco Expansion Joints or Tilt-up Concrete Reveals

    then they might assume Chief can't handle them etc

    so maybe all that is needed is a setting or dropbox in the Wall Material Region dbx
    for these ???

    notice I did say "potential" workaround

    if only a few users need these then CA shouldn't do anything

    if they are commonly needed then ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn woodward View Post
    here is another use.
    Did you ever want to have panels above and/or below a window in a multi-layered wall?
    now there's a tool i can use a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    now there's a tool i can use a lot.
    I can too. My question is are they separate pieces? One above window and one below, or is it possible to use one continuous piece.... Not at office to check.
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    You can have separate pieces or as in my example one piece that goes thru the window, the window breaks the single piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenoeightspot View Post
    You can have separate pieces or as in my example one piece that goes thru the window, the window breaks the single piece.
    Thanks Bill, ain't that cool.
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    It works great except for inside & outside corners when the material is recessed.
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    I also just used one for brick veneer on an inside wall with a fireplace and an arched opening but the veneer won't go over the fireplace brick, it disappears, too bad in that case.
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    Place the "material region" on the back wall then in plan move to the fireplace face. It will not cut the "Parent" material because the fireplace does not have material layers like walls.
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    Thanks William, That did work, I just needed to create it in the room then drag it in place, nice. This tool is getting better every day.
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    what would you call the tool?
    Thank you for asking. Since this function modifies the surface geometry of the wall I would call it “wall surface modifier” for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerdesign View Post
    Thank you for asking. Since this function modifies the surface geometry of the wall I would call it “wall surface modifier” for example.
    Not bad, but what about floors, it also modifies the floor materials.
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    Spencer,

    I'm not sure I agree with you. The Tool basically applies an extra surface, it doesn't modify the existing wall surface - except when the "cut wall material". IMO, it's a Veneer applied to the Wall - which may be recessed into the outer wall surface.

    So, I think it should be Veneer Wall Tool

    Note that there are 3 such tools

    Chief has named these 3 tools as:

    Custom Backsplash
    Wall Material Region
    Floor Material Region


    The Custom Backsplash is almost the same as the Wall Material Region with the exception that if Cabinets are present on the Wall then the material is limited to the area above the Base Cabinets. Of course, the objects created are on different layers depending on which tool is used.
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    Just my 2 cents on the workaround debate. IMO, something is only a "workaround" if the tool is used in a completely non-functional manner for aesthetics only. Like using a polyline solid to create an architectural element. I don't think that this is one of those times. In this case, we have a tool that almost perfectly accomplishes the intended task. Poor nomenclature maybe, but it isn't a workaround.

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    I eat my ice cream with a fork.
    Is it a workaround?
    No matter, it still tastes good.
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    Not bad, but what about floors, it also modifies the floor materials.
    "floor surface modifier"? Unless it’s being used as a subtractive Boolean it is no different than a slab or poly solid except for the layers. Although it sounds like it needs some more work this has been requested for a long time.

 

 

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