Rafters with Rafter Tails For pavillion

[geocoy]

I have searched all over the content for rafters that have rafter tails like you would use for an outdoor pavaillion. I remember seeing them somewhere in the past, but now when I need them, I can not find them. Does anyone know where they are in the library.
I have seen the tails by them selves but I was hoping to find rafters that already have tails.

Thanks for all of your help in the past, you guys have really helped me with Chief
Thanks

[David J. Potter]

(Oops) "Exteriors - Rafter Tails" applied within the Build Roof Dialog. Heck you made me look, thanks!

DJP

[geocoy]

Thanks for the feedback, you are correct. After finding out where to add the rafter tail the difficult task was creating a rafter with a tail on a pavillion that has no roof. Since I went to the trouble here is what I had to do
1) Create a roof plane on my pavillion. You need to have a roof plane before you can draw a rafter. I used hidden walls to create this pavillion and bulit the walls stick by stick.
2) I had to create a flat roof (Zero degree pitch). I tried drawing a rafter with an 8 / 12 pitch but you can not change the angle of the rafter when it is drawn at a 8 /12 pitch.
3) Once I drew the rafter with the flat roof I added a rafter tail and moved it away from my roof plane.
4) Then I deleted the roof plan (don't need it any more)
5) I was only able to add a rafter tail to one end of the rafter, so I had to make a copy of the first rafter and then place them end to end to get one rafter across the whole roof.
Usng a little creativity I was able to get what I needed.
Thanks again for the help and let me know if you see a shorter way to do this

[David J. Potter]

Had I known exactly what you wanted to do I would not have offered what I did offer.

When I do Arbors and atrium's I do them with poly-line solids, make the first one and then copy.
Nothing at all wrong with what you did do, I am not saying that. I am saying I prefer the older method myself.
Both work.

DJP

[Tommy Blair]

I do the same as David and create it manually so you have total contol. I did however create a library so I don't have to keep making them. If you would like the library that I have, email me. I how a sample of show I use them as well.

[geocoy]

Interesting Comments. And yes you can email me (fvbs2010@live.com) the Rafters you have in your library. I am always looking for options and second opinions.

When I was creating the pergolla I wanted to use the framing tools within Chief as much as possible so if I wanted to I could get a list of materials used in the plan. So you first suggestion was exactly what I was looking for. Once I created one rafter the hard work is done, I copied it like you said.

If I use polylines instead of rafters will Chief know to add these to the material list. I am assuming Chief won't know what materials they really are if I just use a polyline and I don't define the material as framing members. Am I wrong about this?

See my attached file to see how it came out. The only problem I have with the attached file is there is too much blue in the Raytrace. I am going to post a string to see if I can get some help with the color scheme Raytrace is using.
Comments are much appreciated
Thanks

[Gene Davis]

I cannot find a way to make solids come into the framing materials list. Maybe a wizard will step up here and show us how.

Just did a test. Made a polyline solid beam, made its material "fir framing," put it on the roof framing layer. It shows up in a 3D-Framing view.

Ran the materials list, and it is not there.

[Tommy Blair]

geocoy, I think it was you that sent me an email saying that the library wasn't too helpful because when you strected the symbols, the ends lost the shape. I see that I didn't change the stretch zones in the library I sent. It's just a matter of setting stretch zones. They do work fine with the proper settings. The image posted here shows those symbols that have been stretched 3 times the size of the initial size when placed. BTW, I stretch them in elevations.

[geocoy]

I created these custom rafter tails and they look great in 3D and in the elevations, BUT, for some reason they do not appear correctly when you look at them in a plan view (top down). They appear to be lying on their side. I tried playing with the display axis and could not figure out how to get them to appear correctly. Anyone know what I might be doing wrong.

[Knapptime]

Would you email me the library? Thanks! bbal_gurl_15@hotmail.com

[Glenn Woodward]

Tommy,

I love that grey mottled texture on the walls.
Is it a Chief texture?
If not, is there any chance of getting a copy?