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    Regardless of how these services work a good backup scheme to an independent location should be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Park View Post
    Regardless of how these services work a good backup scheme to an independent location should be used.
    Agreed - I've got Carbonite backing up everything, even my Drive folder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Park View Post
    Regardless of how these services work a good backup scheme to an independent location should be used.
    Yeah, I plan on keeping the Carbonite too. Triple protection is still dirt cheap compared to losing critical files.

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    Didn't someone say that if you delete a file from DB, it instantly deletes it from the cloud in DB, so if you crash and lose the file, is it possible to get it back? Just not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Didn't someone say that if you delete a file from DB, it instantly deletes it from the cloud in DB, so if you crash and lose the file, is it possible to get it back? Just not sure.
    If you DELETE the file then Windows informs the DropBox application of that action and the DropBox application will soon instruct the DropBox server to delete the file.

    If the hard drive fails or your system crashes in some way and the file on your computer is lost, a copy of that file will still be on the DropBox server.

    There are various "flavors" of DropBox (each with a different cost) that have more features then the free version. They are worth investigating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Didn't someone say that if you delete a file from DB, it instantly deletes it from the cloud in DB, so if you crash and lose the file, is it possible to get it back? Just not sure.
    Even with the free service, DB keeps a copy of deleted files for 30 days.

    Dropbox - Deleted Files

    Even old versions

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    Larry, thanks for starting this thread, I learned so much.

    I have a drop box account, 200 gig at at Fred's suggestion I also signed on for pack rat. I believe pack rat gives me the back up that Doug recommends. Apparently I can go back and get any deleted files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Pitman View Post
    Even with the free service, DB keeps a copy of deleted files for 30 days.

    Dropbox - Deleted Files

    Even old versions

    Dropbox - Old Versions
    Thanks, Dave, sounds like a good choice, but still need another backup for sure.
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    I use SugarSync and had Carbonite previously. Carbonite support told me that their system did not work properly with syncing systems and that I would have to choose one or the other. I chose SugarSync.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briem View Post
    I use SugarSync and had Carbonite previously. Carbonite support told me that their system did not work properly with syncing systems and that I would have to choose one or the other. I chose SugarSync.
    It does now
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    What kind of conflicts Bob? I have both Drive and CArbonite and just started using Drive so haven't noticed any 'conflicts' but am interested in your experience.
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    I've only been using both for a couple of days now but also haven't noticed any conflicts.

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    I wish I could remember the specifics. I had a hard drive crash, used my backup from Carbonite to reinstall with SugaSync running and as I remember couldn't fully install the backup. That's when I contacted Carbonite support. I could be wrong on the details as there's been a lot of water over the dam since then. Support essentially told me that Carbonite wouldn't run correctly with a syncing program running and that I should choose one or the other, if I decided on SugarSync they would provide me a refund on my subscription. After my HD crash, I figured the more backup the better and would like to use them both.
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    I would suggest the turning off sync-type applications while RESTORING - I can see where there could be issues. But during BACKUP, if the backup application follows the recommended Windows protocols there shouldn't be a problem.

    That said I have tried a lot of backup programs and they do tend to be a little "quirky". My current one, which worked fine for several years, was recently updated and they introduced some kind of bug. In the morning I will find that the regular scheduled overnight backup has "stalled" for some reason. The backup application says its "backing up" but nothing is actually happening and I have to kill the process. I just write it off to it being a "backup" application.
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    For a hard drive crash, I am assuming this means a full reinstall of the OS. So it seems you could just do the Carbonite restore and only after that is complete, reinstall the sync to avoid the conflict? So, Carbonite is for emergency restore, and sync is more just for the ability to access always updated files from more than one computer.

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