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    Interesting discussion and am learning stuff. When I loaded Google Drive for the first time it created a folder under 'My Favorites' called Google Drive, on my hard drive, that I can access from my office machine at any time. That's where I put all the files I want to be accessible and sharable from Google Drive on the Interwebs.

    As soon as I put a file in that Google Drive folder, on my computer's hard drive, then Google Drive sees it and loads it into its 'cloud' servers and I can now see it on the web through Google Drive from any computer.

    If I remove the files from that Google Drive folder - on my hard drive - those same files disappear from the 'cloud' and the Google servers no longer have a copy that can be accessed from the 'cloud' or any other computer.

    So at least in this case, from what I'm seeing, there's a folder 'on my hard drive' that contains all my Google Drive files. If I were to delete those files from my machine Google could no longer find them to put them on the cloud.

    I'm not sure how DB works but is it possible to 'unsync' your files in such a way that they ONLY live in the 'clowd' on the DB or Drive servers?

    It seems like that's what Scott's talking about, getting your files on DB only and not on your hard drive. Can't see how that works but I'm willing to learn if it's possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleChief View Post
    ................It seems like that's what Scott's talking about, getting your files on DB only and not on your hard drive. Can't see how that works but I'm willing to learn if it's possible.
    That is exactly what I am saying.

    Here is the vid

    http://youtu.be/XI9NGsj5fYE
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    That is exactly what I am saying.

    Here is the vid

    http://youtu.be/XI9NGsj5fYE
    Scott, you're killing me. You are reminding me so much of myself when my brain gets stuck on an idea and nothing is going to get me to budge.

    I'm watching your video and you don't realize it but when you go to 'favorites' and click on your Drop Box folder, that folder is ON YOUR HARD DRIVE!!! Favorites is on your hard drive! That's where the folders live on your hard drive, under Favorites and in the Drop Box folder - again, on your hard drive.

    The files live on your hard drive AND on the cloud. your video makes everyone's case - not yours. Sorry bout that.

    Here's a quick pick of my file manager, probably very much like yours? You can see the Drop Box folder and the Google Drive folder under Favorites. If this is how you're getting to your Drop Box files then you are getting them from your hard drive. you just moved them from your 'Plans' folder to your Drop Box folder - again - on your hard drive. It really is how these services work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleChief View Post
    Scott, you're killing me. You are reminding me so much of myself when my brain gets stuck on an idea and nothing is going to get me to budge.

    I'm watching your video and you don't realize it but when you go to 'favorites' and click on your Drop Box folder, that folder is ON YOUR HARD DRIVE!!! Favorites is on your hard drive! That's where the folders live on your hard drive, under Favorites and in the Drop Box folder - again, on your hard drive.

    The files live on your hard drive AND on the cloud. your video makes everyone's case - not yours. Sorry bout that.

    Here's a quick pick of my file manager, probably very much like yours? You can see the Drop Box folder and the Google Drive folder under Favorites. If this is how you're getting to your Drop Box files then you are getting them from your hard drive. you just moved them from your 'Plans' folder to your Drop Box folder - again - on your hard drive. It really is how these services work.


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    Wrong mon ami, they are not on my hard drive.

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    WAIT, said the blind man, I understand what you have been drilling in my little head. You say it is on my hard drive, it is taking up space on my hard drive, I think you are saying if somebody steals all 6 devices that I have dropbox on, I am SOL.

    So if somebody steals 5 of my devices, at least I have one device in my possession which is acting like a back up for my files. As long as I have my device password protected, if somebody steals my devices, they will not be able to remove my files.

    I think I get it now, sorry for being so pigheaded.

    Boy, do I feel like a nimrod.

    Thanks guys.

    One final thought, since I have dropbox on my IPHONE, and you guys say that the files reside on the devices, does that mean I just put 60 gig of files on my IPHONE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post

    So if somebody steals 5 of my devices, at least I have one device in my possession which is acting like a back up for my files. As long as I have my device password protected, if somebody steals my devices, they will not be able to remove my files.

    One final thought, since I have dropbox on my IPHONE, and you guys say that the files reside on the devices, does that mean I just put 60 gig of files on my IPHONE?
    Don't forget the copy of the file out on the DropBox server. Assuming the person who stole all of your computers doesn't delete your DropBox account or the files on the DropBox server you can retrieve those copies (do it as soon as you notice your computers have been stolen).

    As far a mobile devices I cannot give you an answer since I haven't used DropBox on one. I will research that.

    BUT if I were coding such an application like DropBox, for mobile devices, I would deal with the potentially very limited space on a mobile device by keeping on the mobile device "pseudo-files" which would automatically download the actual file when you tried to open the "pseudo-file". You wouldn't notice the difference except for the slowness of opening the file. I might chose to try and optimize the performance by keeping small files (have to define "small" first) on the mobile device and using the "pseudo-file" approach for "not-small" files.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fcwilt View Post
    Don't forget the copy of the file out on the DropBox server..........?
    Ahhhhhhh, so dropbox also has a copy of the files. So if all 6 devices are stolen, there is still a copy on the dropbox server that I could access via a brand new device. This would explain why they charge for the amount of storage, because they too are using their space to store my files.

    Thanks Fred, Dave, Steve et al, I truly appreciate your patience with me, I think I get it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleChief View Post
    I'm not sure how DB works but is it possible to 'unsync' your files in such a way that they ONLY live in the 'clowd' on the DB or Drive servers?
    At least with Google Drive, the simple answer would probably be to have more than one Google account, one that is sync-ed and one that isn't. I can tell you though, that you cannot be logged in to more than one Google account at a time (I current have one, and access to two others that are part of a non-profit I am on the board of). I do not have any files sync-ing with my Google account but could change that to sync, and add another if I wanted one I would only upload too.

    You can also change permissions on each file individually for things you may want to share with clients, or keep ones that you want private.

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    [QUOTE=HumbleChief;485735
    I'm not sure how DB works but is it possible to 'unsync' your files in such a way that they ONLY live in the 'clowd' on the DB or Drive servers?
    [/QUOTE]

    Why would you want to do that? If it worked that way, then every time you wanted to work on a file, using one of your computers, you would have to go the DropBox web site and download the file first.

    The DropBox application takes care of that for you keeping the local files on your various computers up-to-date so the files are already where they need to be (on your computers) so you can work on them.

    If the files were ONLY on the DropBox server and you lost you Internet connection you could not access your files.

    As long as you have an Internet connection some of the time the DropBox application will upload/download files as needed whenever it can.

    In addition you have multiple copies of the files which is a good thing.
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