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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by lgswe View Post
    Cliff.....In this part of the country we rarely use a sub-fascia.
    Larry......The jpg you posted above shows 2x6's being used for your eave/gable sub fascia. Try manipulating those figures, or 0 out completely, rebuild roof planes, then see where the soffit is being placed.
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    Cliff.....I played with every type of scenario I could think of. I can get the soffit to move around, but under no circumstance can I get the return soffit to be at the same elevation as the eave soffit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    Heck fire, tried to redo vid with audio, does not work as well as first time, posted vid with audio, auto roof returns are screwed up for me............ it fact I noticed the auto return roof had a different pitch........... ain't worth futzing over for me............. I would build manually.........
    Scott you needed to check sloped not flat in the roof return dbx and it will work
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    The roof returns are auto built. The settings they use are those that are in the Build Roof Dialog. Can we verify these settings match the settings you modified in the roof plane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Park View Post
    The roof returns are auto built. The settings they use are those that are in the Build Roof Dialog. Can we verify these settings match the settings you modified in the roof plane?
    Started a new plan with X5
    Drew a rectangle with four exterior walls
    Marked side walls with 12/12 pitch
    Marked end walls as full gable with auto roof return option
    Built roof planes with boxed eaves option

    All other settings were left at defaults.

    The problem occurs.
    Regards, Frederick C. Wilt (Began with v9, now using X6 aka v16)

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    Dan....I opened a new plan. I made no changes. Drew 4 walls to make a simple building. Two opposite walls were checked for full gable. MANUALLY built the roofs and the return soffit/eave soffit elevation was as shown in the thread. No matter what settings I change before or after I still get the same mismatched results. I don't know how to discribe it any simpler.
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    I understand. That would get you the result you got.

    Open the Build Roof Dialog. Verify the rafter depth matches the depth you set in your manual roof planes.

    To be clear:

    The roof returns are auto generated. They will use the default roof settings, not the settings in the manual roof plane.
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    Dan...I manually built the roof, but the returns were auto built. It shouldn't matter whether the roof planes were auto built or manually as long as I was still having the returns auto built.
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    Can someone post a plan that has the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Park View Post
    Can someone post a plan that has the problem?

    Here is a file.....................

    did this work, for some reason, I am having problems uploading
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    We can please some of the people some of the time, but we can't please all the people all of the time..... but I will keep trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    Here is a file.....................

    did this work, for some reason, I am having problems uploading
    Nuts, let's try it again................... nuts, now I can't upload a stupid little file, someone else has to do it, I am going to get a fascial.
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    The videos we watch are not 100% gold, but if we find a gold nugget, the time spent viewing has a value.

    We can please some of the people some of the time, but we can't please all the people all of the time..... but I will keep trying.

    If you are interested in keeping abreast of any new videos, please subscribe to my channel at YOUTUBE...... channel is ds hall

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    Nuts, let's try it again................... nuts, now I can't upload a stupid little file, someone else has to do it, I am going to get a fascial.
    Let's try this..........................
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    D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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    The videos we watch are not 100% gold, but if we find a gold nugget, the time spent viewing has a value.

    We can please some of the people some of the time, but we can't please all the people all of the time..... but I will keep trying.

    If you are interested in keeping abreast of any new videos, please subscribe to my channel at YOUTUBE...... channel is ds hall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Park View Post
    Can someone post a plan that has the problem?
    Here ya go.
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    Regards, Frederick C. Wilt (Began with v9, now using X6 aka v16)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    Let's try this..........................
    That worked, one more try............................ finally, sorry guys...................... here it is Dan
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    The videos we watch are not 100% gold, but if we find a gold nugget, the time spent viewing has a value.

    We can please some of the people some of the time, but we can't please all the people all of the time..... but I will keep trying.

    If you are interested in keeping abreast of any new videos, please subscribe to my channel at YOUTUBE...... channel is ds hall

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    Dan....Here is a very simple plan. I opened up a new plan, Did not touch a thing. Made four walls. Two opposite walls full gable with 36" hip auto returns. Manually drew the gable roof. The soffits on the returns are not a the same elevation as the eave soffits. The more you change the framing the worse it can get. (difference in elevation)
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