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07-10-2013, 04:22 AM #1
How would you build the top rail for a handrail of a spiral stairs
I want to build a handrail for some spiral stairs. The handrail needs a radius with the start of rail 36" above the ground and the end of rail say................ 90" above the ground. Tried using a 3D molding but can't seem to get it to work. Any ideas?
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07-10-2013, 04:53 AM #2
I'd use sketchup.
I cant make a video right now. Have a look at the attached sketchup file. I separated out the individual steps.Kevin Moquin, AIA, LEED AP BD+C
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07-10-2013, 06:18 AM #3
Use a 3D Molding PLine that is just a 30 degrees arc and the end of the arc to match the stair rise in 30 degrees. Set the Molding to be centered on the PLine. Position one of these and then copy rotate about the center of the stairs with the "z" value matching the rise in 30 degrees.
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07-10-2013, 06:54 AM #4D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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07-10-2013, 06:45 AM #5
I just use a generic symbol and attach the detail sheet from "The iron shop". Those details say it all.
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07-10-2013, 06:50 AM #6
like this. until they get better models.
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07-10-2013, 06:56 AM #7
Yeah, I get that. But my delta is 10', I can stretch symbol but that increases the rise and does not not increase the needed number of risers. Just did a vid on making a spiral stairs and it is really easy. The only tough part is getting a good curved rail. I can do it, but it could be improved upon if I can figure out how to slope the 3d molding handrail.
D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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07-10-2013, 08:11 AM #8
Yes, that is a problem. Right now I just stretch a symbol and it does looks pretty bad. I just don't have the time to spend on creating the exact model. As long as I add a detail page it works for permit purposes. I would love to do it in Chief so I'll go watch your video. Still need the detail page though.
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07-10-2013, 08:01 AM #9Registered User Promoted
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Hi Scott,
I can come very close to a manufactured spiral using a Chief stair.
I can also isolate the railing and turn it into a symbol that I can use on a stair built from polyline solids
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07-10-2013, 08:11 AM #10
Bill, it sounds like we are building the same way, psolids for stairs and the rail per description below.
http://youtu.be/kziX-zqZDhs
My rail is segmented. I built a CA curved stairs with rail, took an overview, deleted all surfaces but rail and turned into symbol. It looks like you did same thing. Your rail is also segmented.
Joe seems to think he can build the spiral, waiting on work from him on how to do a SMOOTH (unsegmented) top rail.D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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07-10-2013, 08:13 AM #11
Wait, how about a curved ramp, not stairs, I will give it a try.
D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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07-10-2013, 08:17 AM #12
Yep, that works, and so much easier. Use a curve ramp, take overview, delete surfaces of ramp, railing remains, turn into symbol and all is well............... SUPER!
D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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The videos we watch are not 100% gold, but if we find a gold nugget, the time spent viewing has a value.
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07-10-2013, 11:19 AM #13
The problem with using ramp is the pickets do not go down to treads properly. So............ building pickets with stairs is the way to go, but if you want a SMOOTH top rail, use the ramp with a single top rail only. So the railing is made out of pickets from stairs and the smooth handrail comes from the ramp. The ramp can be very handy in making handrail symbols.
D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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07-10-2013, 08:02 AM #14
It sure would be nice if we had the ability to use the existing dbx and plug in Z elevation values for both the start and end when doing a spiral handrail, or perhaps other details as well. Seems to me like everything is there but the code to make it happen.
I will be interested to see where this thread goes as I will be starting a project with both a spiral staircase and a circular stair case.Curt Johnson
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07-10-2013, 08:18 AM #15Registered User Promoted
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Hi Scott,
Here is a spiral done in Chief. Yes, the handrail is segmented, but it's close enough for me.I haven't tried it with a ramp