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    Stud wall cuts itself at intersection with glass wall

    The partition separating Niche from shower, ends a few inches short (where it meets the glass wall), and shows exposed wood stud.
    Before I added the glass wall it ended in line with the rest of the wall (and curb, and niches).

    I cannot bring the standard interior partition forward to be inline with the curb and niche wall!!
    any help would be appreciated.


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    When that happens to me, I just cap it with a slab or p-line solid, set to the desired material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Design View Post
    The partition separating Niche from shower, ends a few inches short (where it meets the glass wall), and shows exposed wood stud.
    Before I added the glass wall it ended in line with the rest of the wall (and curb, and niches).

    Daniel,

    It would appear the glass wall as you identify is creating the problems. It's hard to see from your pic, I've tried enlarging it and this is what I think: The main wall is connecting to the end of the glass wall as it should. Click image for larger version. 

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    Have you tried pulling the glass wall forward? In another thread I posted creating a new wall type called "painted stud" and paint the stud the same material that you want to match it to. (Do this in the wall definitions box when you create the wall type. It wont work with the material painter).
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    I just dealt with this. Make an invisible wall perpendicular to the offending wall to control length of problem wall. This has been discussed before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    I just dealt with this. Make an invisible wall perpendicular to the offending wall to control length of problem wall. This has been discussed before.
    I was thinking about whether this is truly a bug or not. I do not consider it a bug, if CA feels it is a bug, I hope they are very careful when they fix it. Consider the problems that would arise if we did not have this auto connect tool available. We would be forever fixing wall connections.

    And whatever "fix" they come up with, it probably would not be any more user friendly than the invisible wall solution. A bonus with the invisible wall solution, it is easy to espy the special condition.
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    Yes, it does seem to be connecting to the glass wall, which seems very smart, but not in the case that the glass wall is located in the middle of the "wall" (curb and soffit), and I did try to pull it, it didn't help.
    At least now I know that it isn't something I have done wrong.
    Thank you for your help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Design View Post
    ....and I did try to pull it, it didn't help.
    Daniel,

    This is what I get when I pull the glass wall forward. (I haven't adjusted your plines etc, just the glass wall). I also have created a separate wall type as I described earlier with a painted stud.

    I do concur though, that a wall should lock to where you want it, not where it feels like.
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    If it's been discussed before, shouldn't it be indentified/reported as a bug?

    Realistically he (or anyone else having this problem) should be able to specify a wall length and lock it in. Chief shouldn't overide the wall length specification entered and make it's own assumption where the wall should end. if so, what was the purposes of radio buttons to lock a wall into a specified length?
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    Well Rod, please report it. This is nothing new. This is old news. So you have been using this program since 2006 and you did not realize this. Don't you think this has already been reported? Don't you think CA knows about this issue by now? I am interested in immediate solutions now. I can't wait for CA to fix this. I was really disappointed with your solution for the OP, especially considering your experience. And DJP's was a worse solution.

    Sorry, I just realized you have been using this program since V.1.

    What is really disappointing is I did a video on this very subject. Do you guys know so much that it is not worth your time to view a video? A free lesson and you can't bother to watch. Unbelievable, you have been using this program since V.1, and you did not recognize the problem. Do you realize you have probably been using this program longer than any of the programmers have been working at CA.

    Sorry to be such a jerk, but I just get a bit frustrated when I don't feel the user base is becoming as knowledgable a I think they should be, especially with the many resources that are available.
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    My 2 cents . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    If it's been discussed before, shouldn't it be indentified/reported as a bug?
    YES!


    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    This is nothing new. This is old news. So you have been using this program since 2006 and you did not realize this. Don't you think this has already been reported? Don't you think CA knows about this issue by now?
    You know what they say about assuming.

    I always err on the side of reporting something. Maybe you think it's been reported, but it's really a different, but similar issue.

    The powers that be have stated more than once that the more something is reported, the higher a priority it is for them to fix it because they know its affecting more than just one person.

    It takes less time to shoot a ticket on in to the Chief support folks than it does to compose a nice little rant up here on ChiefTalk, and in my experience, gets better results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Design View Post
    Thank you guys for your help.
    Above and below the Shelf unit I made it out of 2 sofits. Now with the invisible glass wall at front, the walls looks good, but I still have that tiny space from the sofits being recessed from the face of the wall. I tried to bring the sofits forward, but it always stays like that? any suggestions?
    As Bill highlighted.

    Part of the reason your soffit doesn't appear to line up is that when you are working in plan view, Chief doesn't show drywall at the end of the wall, but it does in 3D view. So whatever thickness drywall you are using, you have to move the soffit out by the same distance.
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    Well awfully sorry Scott that I'm not up with the "in crowd"

    So you're 4 versions ahead of me and it's still happening. I tried to offer Daniel assistance with the limited tools at my disposal. Have you checked if my guess was correct, if I'm wrong please clarify. If I am correct are you still going to brow beat me into submission? Why is your solution with yet another workaround any better than mine or Davids' efforts to help. Who died and made you King!!!!!

    You guys at the forefront should be jumping up and down about "old news". I can only check on things I find when seeing what the new version has to offer by downloading the trial and in instances where I have found the same nagging faults in the newer release, I have made it known. As I am not current and don't have SSA, can I still submit a ticket to Tech support?

    It's not often I do get to help others around here, so when I get the opportunity, I like to think what I do contribute (my silly jokes aside) has some merit. Or do I need to go spamming the forums with videos to make a point of just how helpful I am or aren't.
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    Sorry Rod, I did not realize you are still using V10 or is it V11. I thought you were a regular user of the program and therefore you were in a "learning and advancing" mode. My bad, I am sure your advice was greatly appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    Sorry Rod, I did not realize you are still using V10 or is it V11. I thought you were a regular user of the program and therefore you were in a "learning and advancing" mode. My bad, I am sure your advice was greatly appreciated.

    Hey Scott. I'm worried about you after yesterday and my foundation and this I'm wondering if you are off your meds. Happy Memorial Day Weekend. Play some golf and relax.

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