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    Well I'll be darned. I draw a roof plane, open it for spec, and type into the box that says, "Pitch (in 12)", "12 in 16," and Chief returns, "12." The roof plane pitches to 12:12, or 45 degrees. I then respecify, I type, "12:16," and Chief returns, "28"" Things get steep.

    I enter "12/16" and Chief returns "3/4"" Real shallow.

    What setting am I missing?
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    Interesting, I will check it out in the am
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    Your not missing anything? When doing roof pitches as a ratio, Chief Will ONLY accept a ration of 12 -- fixed. Apparently if you type in a math ratio it will try to do the math but then it then becomes a ratio over 12. Perhaps a bug as this field should not be doing math operations.

    Both 12/16 and 9/12 are 36.87 deg. 16/12 is not the same as 12/16.

    To avoid confusion you can set roof pitch in degs by checking deg in Defaults -- plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Davis View Post
    Well I'll be darned. I draw a roof plane, open it for spec, and type into the box that says, "Pitch (in 12)", "12 in 16," and Chief returns, "12." The roof plane pitches to 12:12, or 45 degrees. I then respecify, I type, "12:16," and Chief returns, "28"" Things get steep.

    I enter "12/16" and Chief returns "3/4"" Real shallow.

    What setting am I missing?
    You don't understand because you are not a programmer. Here is the programming method:

    value of "12 in 16" is 12.00 (everything after the 12 is ignored)
    value of "12:16" is 12+16 = 28.00 (something in the program changed the : to a +
    value of 12/16 is 3/4

    These things are only understood based on the programming language. Basically all of your examples are handled as a text string and in order to determine a numerical value of the text a subroutine is called. It's the subroutine that looks at each character and constructs a numerical value. Programatically that would look like:

    nValue := val("12 in 16") = 12
    nValue := val("12")+val("16") = 28 // note: programmer replaced the : with a +
    nValue := val("12")/val("16") = 3/4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Davis View Post
    Well I'll be darned. I draw a roof plane, open it for spec, and type into the box that says, "Pitch (in 12)", "12 in 16," and Chief returns, "12." The roof plane pitches to 12:12, or 45 degrees. I then respecify, I type, "12:16," and Chief returns, "28"" Things get steep.

    I enter "12/16" and Chief returns "3/4"" Real shallow.

    What setting am I missing?
    I don't get what the mystery is. I can get a 16:12 pitch.

    http://chieftutor.com/dscotthall/GEN...12%20PITCH.wmv
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    I don't get what the mystery is. I can get a 16:12 pitch.

    http://chieftutor.com/dscotthall/GEN...12%20PITCH.wmv
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