Quirky - that is what I am talking about

[HumbleChief]

My opinion is the watercolor with line drawing, and final shadows, is way to slow for me anymore, what happened to it. It gets slower with every version. Raytrace is much faster. I really like it but, not ready for prime time yet.

It's a shame about that great feature - just to slow to EVER really use. Is that function CPU or GPU dependent? Both?

[perryh]

It's a GPU function, but I have one of the best you can get.

[Joe Carrick]

I think it's both - maybe more CPU than GPU. Actually, the more I think about it the more I think it's CPU. It's almost like a Ray Trace but directly over the GPU Image. It has to be regenerated if you change the view-point.

[johnnyprc]

I guess that is the point really. CA is not setup well to do CONCEPT WORK in 2D. These drawings were created just in 2d - and yes, in minutes - each elevation less than 30 min. I guess the issue is that CA doesn't do 2D as well as it could. It does 3D great, but it would seem to me that 2D tools would be easy to improve, yet they don't seem to worry about it.

The interesting thing is that residential 3d work is 20times harder than commercial - in my opinion. I would take CA any day over Vectorworks for 3D modeling of residential structures. I just wish CA could be more flexible and better for 2D work - as sometimes you need to do concept work before you produce the full model.

I will post a PDF of the drawing file so you guys can print.

[perryh]

I was under the impression that
rendering=GPU / raytrace=CPU

[johnnyprc]

Here is an example of a quick 2D site plan early in concept drawing. I used Vectorworks with the "hand-drawn" effect, but overall I wouldn't think CA is suited for doing this simply. Maybe I am wrong and ignorant. I hope I am really.

[Joe Carrick]

Here is an example of a quick 2D site plan early in concept drawing. I used Vectorworks with the "hand-drawn" effect, but overall I wouldn't think CA is suited for doing this simply. Maybe I am wrong and ignorant. I hope I am really.

You forgot to attach your example.

[Electromen]

My old Summagraphic eight pen plotter was sharp, as sharp as the pen.

[Mattyt12]

Here is an example of a quick 2D site plan early in concept drawing. I used Vectorworks with the "hand-drawn" effect, but overall I wouldn't think CA is suited for doing this simply. Maybe I am wrong and ignorant. I hope I am really.

I disagree, I have always been able to replicate pretty much any presentation style that I've come across and liked. How simply one can do so comes down to how organised and well thought out the process to acheive the final product is.

I think the way Chief utilizes layers, layer sets and custom libraries work perfectly to enable a smooth and productive worklflow with a well setup template from conceptualization stage right through to construction. Ive attached an example which I believe replicates yours which was reasonably fast to produce via creating a layerset with custom linetypes and lineweights, CAD boxes with fills and hatches, revision clouds used to create landscaping items layered up to generate colour and definition and can be added as a library item.

I do however agree that more control in 2D would be beneficial, in the way of custom hatches, ability to have a selected fill and a different backround colour without having to have multiple copies layered with different attributes, graded fills to generate skies or fill windows and an auto area fill tool are some examples.

[johnnyprc]

Here is a quick color elevation I did for a building (under 1 hr) using Vectorworks and mapping images into the drawing as "fill". I was just trying to show the client a quick idea. It could be that I just don't know CA well enough to "map" images to create drawings like this.

[Joe Carrick]

Here is a quick color elevation I did for a building (under 1 hr) using Vectorworks and mapping images into the drawing as "fill". I was just trying to show the client a quick idea. It could be that I just don't know CA well enough to "map" images to create drawings like this.

Pretty Simple in Chief.

[johnnyprc]

Pretty Simple in Chief.

So...are you saying you can map images in the backround of a 2D drawing? If so, it is obvious I just dont know enough about CA.

[johnnyprc]

FYI I can't upload high res files on here. I tried PDF's but no go.

[Dave Pitman]

FYI I can't upload high res files on here. I tried PDF's but no go.

You should know you can't get off that easy.

Get yourself a free Dropbox account (referral link with extra free space) and let's see that example pdf.

[Dave Pitman]

I gave it about 25 minutes. Enough to get an idea.

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