Quirky - that is what I am talking about

[johnnyprc]

Some say virtue IS a necessity.

[marty]

I must admit it took me a view years to wean myself away from the need to conceptualise on paper before building the model.

When I started using Chief at V4 I did so with 5 others who were all eager to get into 3D modelling.
Unfortunately most of the others quickly gave up finding that the Computer was no match for the long learned and well honed skills on the drawing board.

I took the approach that I would need to take several steps backwards before reaping the benefits of the change over and it paid off in the end. Chief uses different logic to most other software (Revit is the closest) and anyone who applies logic learned with other programs is bound to find it quirky at first.

[sutcac]

Some say virtue IS a necessity.

This is saying something entirely different than trying to make necessity *into a virtue*.

I still think this line weight issue, and printing clarity, you stress can be handled in Chief just the way it is. This doesn't mean it can't be improved. I have spent a lot of time here on this forum pushing for improvements in other areas as well, I just don't place this one as very high on the list. Sometimes I think architects have a tendency to fall in love with their own drawings a bit too much and lose sight of the actual design service to the client and that it's what gets built that matters.

Just as a quick example of using Chief in a more "sketchy" way I am attaching another watercolor/sketch elevation I gave to a client a couple of years ago, and then floor plans of the Chief model it was based on, which you can see are very minimal other than the front. The resolution is, again, limited the 200KB limit on the forum.

And just one example of what Lew is talking about above, I can evaluate 10 different roof pitches and roof overhangs in literally a matter of seconds. I then look at the video you posted and cringe at the amount of time it would take to evaluate the different pitches by hand sketching.

[johnnyprc]

I think architects have a tendency to fall in love with their own drawings a bit too much and lose sight of the actual design service to the client and that it's what gets built that matters

You being an architect should know and appreciate this more. The reason we are taught this in school is to make us care about everything we do. If we give great thought and care into how we draw and present something, the thought is that we will start to give more attention to the design.

Why does the Army/Navy/Marines spend so much time and effort teaching people to keep their personal spaces so clean? What does that matter to war? I was watching something on the French Foreign Legion and about how they get you thinking on small issues so the end result is the best in can be.

That is the same with architecture. The process works, and it is a way to keep sharp. Sharp in drawing and design. One last point is that most the people on this board probably work for themselves. If they ever had to go work for a large architectural company, what I am saying is SOOOOOO important…or you will not have a job. They don't care how good a designer you are, they care what the drawings look like - as normally someone above you is doing the "design" work.

[spencerdesign]

Thank you for posting the link to that video. I enjoyed watching it. I do work for an Architect and the workflow is exactly like that. His sketches are impeccable and he knows exactly what the model should look like in his head. After the owner signs off on the concept I get to build the model. Then the design is refined from there. It works very well.