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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    ......................... In this case making the adjustment first and then using Auto Roof Planes worked just as it should.
    No argument here, potato, potato, tomato, tomato, it depends on how we work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    No argument here, potato, potato, tomato, tomato, it depends on how we work.
    Exactly! I almost always use the Auto Roof Plane Tool. I've never had a problem using Manual Roof Planes but the automatic tool is faster for me 95% of the time. In addition, if it doesn't work as I expect then it gives me a very quick tutorial on what I've done wrong in the model. BTW, It's obvious that my geometry is better than yours - just check the results on the golf course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    Exactly! I almost always use the Auto Roof Plane Tool. I've never had a problem using Manual Roof Planes but the automatic tool is faster for me 95% of the time. In addition, if it doesn't work as I expect then it gives me a very quick tutorial on what I've done wrong in the model. BTW, It's obvious that my geometry is better than yours - just check the results on the golf course
    lol, Joe, you are such a jerk, one day my geometry will be better than yours, I just hope you are still alive. lol, Joe, thanks Bud................. see on the golf course soon.... lol............
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    Scott:

    for me the definition of auto roofs is being able to change settings in any/all of the related dbx's and getting the desired roof

    manual roofs is when I have to select the roof plane(s) and manually manipulate them into connecting correctly


    and I agree - auto roofs do NOT work for every situation
    but they CAN work for many


    auto roofs would really shine if we could create a macro by recording our clicks as we make the setting changes

    then if something changes we can run that script over again and get the exact same roof


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    In a nut shell.
    You are correct. Auto Roof Planes don't always work.

    But in this case the problem was pretty simple. Either the pitch was wrong or the distance from the Garage Wall to the 2nd Floor Wall was wrong or the height from the Garage Plate to the Second Floor Plate was wrong.

    It was simple geometry and something had to be adjusted. Doing it manually simply made the same adjustment. In this case making the adjustment first and then using Auto Roof Planes worked just as it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbuttery View Post

    auto roofs would really shine if we could create a macro by recording our clicks as we make the setting changes

    then if something changes we can run that script over again and get the exact same roof


    Lew
    Lew, There is a macro utility that you can get to do this.
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    I guess my first fix was the correct one, don't know why, just fixed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    lol, Joe, you are such a jerk, one day my geometry will be better than yours, I just hope you are still alive. lol, Joe, thanks Bud................. see on the golf course soon.... lol............
    I just love Jerking your Chain
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    Sorry guys that I wasted your time. Auto roofs work great, please continue using auto roofs, no thinking involved, simply hit the build roof button and all is well. I am so glad I was schooled on auto roofs, I never realized they were so easy. From now on I am going to use auto roofs. Thanks CA, I love auto roofs and auto slabs, easy peasy.

    EDIT: SORRY GUYS, TONGUE FIRMLY IMPLANTED IN CHEAK, I am such a bad boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    From now on I am going to use auto roofs. Thanks CA, I love auto roofs and auto slabs, easy peasy.

    EDIT: SORRY GUYS, TONGUE FIRMLY IMPLANTED IN CHEAK, I am such a bad boy.
    I think I'm going to have to IMPLANT something in one of your CHEEKS!
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    Another way of showing where it's off.....In the jpg, the auto generated roof shows the overhang at 18" in one area and 18 13/16" in another. The shaded area needs to move in the -Y direction 13/16". Make sure to align the 2nd floor walls, to the walls you moved below. Then, it auto generates correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    I think I'm going to have to IMPLANT something in one of your CHEEKS!
    Lol, Thanks Joe, admittedly I deserve it in one of my CHEEKS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambrozac View Post
    Another way of showing where it's off.....In the jpg, the auto generated roof shows the overhang at 18" in one area and 18 13/16" in another. The shaded area needs to move in the -Y direction 13/16". Make sure to align the 2nd floor walls, to the walls you moved below. Then, it auto generates correctly.

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    The overhang is only off in that direction because the Roof Plan is 3/4" too high and it has to match the adjacent Fascia height.
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    Lew, There is a macro utility that you can get to do this.

    Joe:

    I know - but I'm dreaming of a day when it can be done within Chief via Ruby


    no thinking involved, simply hit the build roof button and all is well

    Scott:

    auto roofs may involve doing settings in a variety of dbx's both before and after hitting the "build roof button"

    if "build roof button" is all you are doing then auto roofs is probably going to fail for you most of the time



    watch some of the auto roof training vidoes and read some of the auto roof help articles

    Chief can do over two dozen roof styles using auto roof

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    The overhang is only off in that direction because the Roof Plan is 3/4" too high and it has to match the adjacent Fascia height.
    That is correct. This only offers another choice. Use a polyline around the area to be moved, Edit Area all Floors, and the area can be moved quickly. Generate Roof. Just depends if the user wants to go this way.
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