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08-27-2012, 12:08 PM #46D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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08-27-2012, 12:14 PM #47
Exactly! I almost always use the Auto Roof Plane Tool. I've never had a problem using Manual Roof Planes but the automatic tool is faster for me 95% of the time. In addition, if it doesn't work as I expect then it gives me a very quick tutorial on what I've done wrong in the model. BTW, It's obvious that my geometry is better than yours - just check the results on the golf course
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08-27-2012, 12:21 PM #48D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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08-27-2012, 12:40 PM #49
Scott:
for me the definition of auto roofs is being able to change settings in any/all of the related dbx's and getting the desired roof
manual roofs is when I have to select the roof plane(s) and manually manipulate them into connecting correctly
and I agree - auto roofs do NOT work for every situation
but they CAN work for many
auto roofs would really shine if we could create a macro by recording our clicks as we make the setting changes
then if something changes we can run that script over again and get the exact same roof
LewLew Buttery
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08-27-2012, 02:05 PM #50
In a nut shell.
You are correct. Auto Roof Planes don't always work.
But in this case the problem was pretty simple. Either the pitch was wrong or the distance from the Garage Wall to the 2nd Floor Wall was wrong or the height from the Garage Plate to the Second Floor Plate was wrong.
It was simple geometry and something had to be adjusted. Doing it manually simply made the same adjustment. In this case making the adjustment first and then using Auto Roof Planes worked just as it should.
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08-27-2012, 02:11 PM #51Joseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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08-27-2012, 02:12 PM #52
I guess my first fix was the correct one, don't know why, just fixed it.
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08-27-2012, 02:46 PM #53Joseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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08-27-2012, 02:53 PM #54
Sorry guys that I wasted your time. Auto roofs work great, please continue using auto roofs, no thinking involved, simply hit the build roof button and all is well. I am so glad I was schooled on auto roofs, I never realized they were so easy. From now on I am going to use auto roofs. Thanks CA, I love auto roofs and auto slabs, easy peasy.
EDIT: SORRY GUYS, TONGUE FIRMLY IMPLANTED IN CHEAK, I am such a bad boy.Last edited by dshall; 08-27-2012 at 03:25 PM.
D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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08-27-2012, 03:36 PM #55Joseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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08-27-2012, 03:41 PM #56Member-Cliff Cain
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Another way of showing where it's off.....In the jpg, the auto generated roof shows the overhang at 18" in one area and 18 13/16" in another. The shaded area needs to move in the -Y direction 13/16". Make sure to align the 2nd floor walls, to the walls you moved below. Then, it auto generates correctly.
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08-27-2012, 03:43 PM #57D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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08-27-2012, 03:56 PM #58Joseph P. Carrick, Architect - AIA
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08-27-2012, 04:01 PM #59
Lew, There is a macro utility that you can get to do this.
Joe:
I know - but I'm dreaming of a day when it can be done within Chief via Ruby
no thinking involved, simply hit the build roof button and all is well
Scott:
auto roofs may involve doing settings in a variety of dbx's both before and after hitting the "build roof button"
if "build roof button" is all you are doing then auto roofs is probably going to fail for you most of the time
watch some of the auto roof training vidoes and read some of the auto roof help articles
Chief can do over two dozen roof styles using auto roof
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08-27-2012, 04:06 PM #60Member-Cliff Cain
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The overhang is only off in that direction because the Roof Plan is 3/4" too high and it has to match the adjacent Fascia height.Cliff
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