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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    Joe's answer is the correct one in my eyes I guess you could also change the pitch to hit the 2nd floor exactly.
    But changing the pitch was not part of the exercise. In my mind, and the only thing I was trying to point out was the fact that AUTO ROOFS have limitations and they do not always build correctly. Yes, adjust the plate ht. yes adjust the pitch, yes adjust the span, who cares, we can all do that if we want..... the point is that AUTO ROOFS DON'T ALWAYS WORK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    But changing the pitch was not part of the exercise. In my mind, and the only thing I was trying to point out was the fact that AUTO ROOFS have limitations and they do not always build correctly. Yes, adjust the plate ht. yes adjust the pitch, yes adjust the span, who cares, we can all do that if we want..... the point is that AUTO ROOFS DON'T ALWAYS WORK!
    You are correct. Auto Roof Planes don't always work.

    But in this case the problem was pretty simple. Either the pitch was wrong or the distance from the Garage Wall to the 2nd Floor Wall was wrong or the height from the Garage Plate to the Second Floor Plate was wrong.

    It was simple geometry and something had to be adjusted. Doing it manually simply made the same adjustment. In this case making the adjustment first and then using Auto Roof Planes worked just as it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    ......................... In this case making the adjustment first and then using Auto Roof Planes worked just as it should.
    No argument here, potato, potato, tomato, tomato, it depends on how we work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    No argument here, potato, potato, tomato, tomato, it depends on how we work.
    Exactly! I almost always use the Auto Roof Plane Tool. I've never had a problem using Manual Roof Planes but the automatic tool is faster for me 95% of the time. In addition, if it doesn't work as I expect then it gives me a very quick tutorial on what I've done wrong in the model. BTW, It's obvious that my geometry is better than yours - just check the results on the golf course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    Exactly! I almost always use the Auto Roof Plane Tool. I've never had a problem using Manual Roof Planes but the automatic tool is faster for me 95% of the time. In addition, if it doesn't work as I expect then it gives me a very quick tutorial on what I've done wrong in the model. BTW, It's obvious that my geometry is better than yours - just check the results on the golf course
    lol, Joe, you are such a jerk, one day my geometry will be better than yours, I just hope you are still alive. lol, Joe, thanks Bud................. see on the golf course soon.... lol............
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    Scott:

    for me the definition of auto roofs is being able to change settings in any/all of the related dbx's and getting the desired roof

    manual roofs is when I have to select the roof plane(s) and manually manipulate them into connecting correctly


    and I agree - auto roofs do NOT work for every situation
    but they CAN work for many


    auto roofs would really shine if we could create a macro by recording our clicks as we make the setting changes

    then if something changes we can run that script over again and get the exact same roof


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    Quote Originally Posted by lbuttery View Post

    auto roofs would really shine if we could create a macro by recording our clicks as we make the setting changes

    then if something changes we can run that script over again and get the exact same roof


    Lew
    Lew, There is a macro utility that you can get to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    lol, Joe, you are such a jerk, one day my geometry will be better than yours, I just hope you are still alive. lol, Joe, thanks Bud................. see on the golf course soon.... lol............
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    Sorry guys that I wasted your time. Auto roofs work great, please continue using auto roofs, no thinking involved, simply hit the build roof button and all is well. I am so glad I was schooled on auto roofs, I never realized they were so easy. From now on I am going to use auto roofs. Thanks CA, I love auto roofs and auto slabs, easy peasy.

    EDIT: SORRY GUYS, TONGUE FIRMLY IMPLANTED IN CHEAK, I am such a bad boy.
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    In a nut shell.
    You are correct. Auto Roof Planes don't always work.

    But in this case the problem was pretty simple. Either the pitch was wrong or the distance from the Garage Wall to the 2nd Floor Wall was wrong or the height from the Garage Plate to the Second Floor Plate was wrong.

    It was simple geometry and something had to be adjusted. Doing it manually simply made the same adjustment. In this case making the adjustment first and then using Auto Roof Planes worked just as it should.

 

 

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