X5 beta

[dshall]

.................. I'll upgrade when I'm financially able..................

I get this, I get this, I get this, however I have found that sometimes it is penny wise and pound foolish not to keep up with the latest. I am not sure how much it cost to upgrade to "7", maybe 50.00, but I am assuming you are wasting that 50.00 by trying to get XP to work and I have spent that much money giving you this advice. But I get it.......... times are tough right now and we have to watch our dollars.

[WendyWelton]

Larry,

In 2009 I had to cut off my cable tv, cut out fresh vegetables, ditch the $10/month gym membership and went two long cold-snap 3 day weekends without heat - so I hear you. It was a long painful careful road back to being anything but month to month and a prayer. All the math in the world doesn't do it if the till is empty. And I'm now cured forever, and I mean FOREVER, from every drinking from the poison cup of credit again. Even if I had credit capacity, I wouldn't touch it.

So you have my support for your no-apologies stance on upgrading.

[HumbleChief]

I get this, I get this, I get this, however I have found that sometimes it is penny wise and pound foolish not to keep up with the latest. I am not sure how much it cost to upgrade to "7", maybe 50.00, but I am assuming you are wasting that 50.00 by trying to get XP to work and I have spent that much money giving you this advice. But I get it.......... times are tough right now and we have to watch our dollars.

Spending $50 to upgrade to Win 7 would be a simple no brainer but I have LOTS of software that won't run on 7 and believe me I'm not a computer idiot. I have Win 7 on one machine but I only run a couple of programs on that machine but it's in another room for another purpose. It's a great OS in my opinion.

And I have an older printer that I use with Chief. Will it run OK on Win 7? What if it doesn't? New printer? Another grand - $1500.00. And what other problems will Win 7 introduce on this machine for this purpose. That simply means more time and $$.

And up to now XP has been perfect with CA and if all I have to do is reinstall Visual C++ to have it running perfect again I would want to upgrade and spend all that time and money why?

AND the Chief guy just said that the Visual C++ problem can be duplicated on all systems including Win 7 (abeit not as easily as XP) and again I would want to upgrade and spend all that time and money why? Just to feel good about being up to date?

Hey don't get me wrong, that's a pretty good feeling but it's also a pretty good feeling knowing you can get by more than good enough on what one already has.

There will come a day when CA will not run on XP and I'll happily upgrade then. Till then I'll save my money and time and be just as productive with the OS I have.

My opinion of course and always respect yours and others'.

[HumbleChief]

Larry,

In 2009 I had to cut off my cable tv, cut out fresh vegetables, ditch the $10/month gym membership and went two long cold-snap 3 day weekends without heat - so I hear you. It was a long painful careful road back to being anything but month to month and a prayer. All the math in the world doesn't do it if the till is empty. And I'm now cured forever, and I mean FOREVER, from every drinking from the poison cup of credit again. Even if I had credit capacity, I wouldn't touch it.

So you have my support for your no-apologies stance on upgrading.

Thanks for the empathy Wendy, so glad to hear you've found a way out. I know a few who did not.

[perryh]

I'm hearing you guys, it took me a while, but its really nice to be debt free at last in this economy. I can never tell what the future brings, just have to go with the flow.

[HumbleChief]

Just called tech support. X5 should run fine on XP 32 bit so maybe now we can continue dealing with facts instead of conjecture.

Jintu, If you're getting the same error as I they suggested reinstalling the Visual C++ package, HERE'S a link hope it helps.

Didn't help here. Same error when changing materials in the wall type dbx

[dshall]

I'm hearing you guys, it took me a while, but its really nice to be debt free at last in this economy. I can never tell what the future brings, just have to go with the flow.

I have not had an outstanding debt on my credit card since 1994 when I went through my own financial problems. I say pay it off every month, and if you can't pay it off, don't spend the money. Jeez, don't I sound like a pompous you know what. I have a feeling that just about every one of us who are independent business owners got caught up in the credit deal, and I think we all had to learn the hard way............... but we learned and I hope none of us end up there again, it ain't fun, many a sleepless night.

[lbuttery]

Yep, I'm debt free now also

house, car, credit cards - no debt

Lew

[WendyWelton]

To this day I tear up a little even writing about 2009. I came within inches of losing my house, fought foreclosure for 18 months. It's seared into my consiousness like the Great Depression was for my grandmother, who couldn't throw out a piece of string and couldn't turn the heat up above 60.

We just retired our last XP workstation this year, and thought long and hard about "need" vs "want" first.

Perry - Congrats on retiring your debt. I'm still a full four years out from that celebration, and even then only non-mortgage debt.

I guess I'm saying to everybody - your fellow posters are intelligent adult business people. They can do the math. I think we should respect it when someone says investing in upgrades isn't what they can or should do at the moment. They know the benefits, they know all the arguments, have probably made the case themselves at various points. Let's not add peer pressure to existing economic angst.

That's Miss Prissy Pants two cents for the day. Ok three cents, I used up three paragraphs!

[dshall]

Yep, I'm debt free now also

house, car, credit cards - no debt

Lew

Well, my house ain't paid for, and I have a feeling I will always have a car lease............ but that's it................ oh nuts, I have the darn Grandkids.......... thankfully only 3 to date........... I thank my lucky stars that I don't have 12 like my friend Perry, heck, the other day he dropped a hundred dollars taking all those rug rats to the movies....... I would of taken them to the playground and dropped them off.............. if Perry would follow my advice he would have an extra hundred dollars in his pocket and he could of taken Penny out for a very nice meal.

[HumbleChief]

....if Perry would follow my advice he would have an extra hundred dollars in his pocket and he could of taken Penny out for a very nice meal.

...or he could have upgraded to Windows 8

[dshall]

...or he could have upgraded to Windows 8

Good point, but if ain't broke, don't fix it. I am still on 7 and I am loathe to switch to 8, I have no idea the travails of that. I am such a hypocrite.

[perryh]

No Windows 8 for me until I buy a new computer with it already on it and sp1 is out. its only 40 bucks for the upgrade.
Love to take the grandkids to the movies, but they want to see the 3d ones. Really, so do I.
Penny actually likes to cook at home so we rarely go out to eat. Everyone comes here to eat.

[Chiefer]

Yep, maybe auto roof returns are broken, I am not sure since I don't know enough about auto roofs. I did them manually with no problem. I got what I wanted with no problem using manual roofs, easy peasy, maybe 30 seconds.

here is a vid................
http://chieftutor.com/dscotthall/JINTU%20ROOF%201.wmv

D.Scott,

Thanks for the assistance, great video tutorial!

Just change the return to gable and it works

Perryh,

This is the best solution, Thank you!

Just called tech support. X5 should run fine on XP 32 bit so maybe now we can continue dealing with facts instead of conjecture.

Jintu, If you're getting the same error as I they suggested reinstalling the Visual C++ package, HERE'S a link hope it helps.

Larry,

Thank you! system requirement will only support XP service pack 2, mine is 3. Anyway, we are not alone as it is also happening in windows7.

[Chiefer]

In this case it wasn't the machine, but the setting,

I disagree.

Thanks again.