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    Insulation In One Rafter Bay

    Is there a way to show a slab or polyline solid or soffit or something in a single roof rafter bay ???

    for illustrative purpose I would like to do a framing overview and show closed cell spray foam in one rafter bay for a 6:12 roof

    I suspect this is beyond my skill level

    I just want to take some preliminary sketches to the city for their review
    without having to pay my partner - I'll have to do that for the final drawings

    I have "foam" showing in a floor bay and a wall bay

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    Seriously? 16k posts?

    O.K. Lets assume that this is a legitimate question...

    1. Post a plan
    2. Maybe a sketch of what you are trying to achieve
    3. I will guess what you are trying to achieve and tell you the way to do this is to draw your object and then position it. Or draw the object in the correct position and then size it.
    4. Seriously? 16k posts?
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    Alan:

    what has 16k posts have to do with skill ???

    I know what I know
    I'm now trying to learn something new

    usually my partner does these tasks but this is for my own house
    so I'm trying not to bother him with sketches

    I just want something simple to run past the city permit officer for discussion of best method

    I have attached a pic

    Lew
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbuttery View Post
    Alan:

    what has 16k posts have to do with skill ???

    I know what I know
    I'm now trying to learn something new

    usually my partner does these tasks but this is for my own house
    so I'm trying not to bother him with sketches

    I just want something simple to run past the city permit officer for discussion of best method

    I have attached a pic

    Lew
    Lew, why don't you post the plan. Do you expect us to recreate you model to explain how to do it?
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    This is so simple.

    Copy a Rafter and change it's width, height, material, etc. Now it's insulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    This is so simple.

    Copy a Rafter and change it's width, height, material, etc. Now it's insulation.
    But if you have auto roof framing on, don'at you lose the insulation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    But if you have auto roof framing on, don'at you lose the insulation?
    So turn auto roof framing off.

    Actually, I'm not sure if you even have to do that. A copied Rafter that's been changed this way might not get deleted when auto re-framed. I know they don't when I manually select "Build Roof Framing".

    Also, changing the Layer might prevent the deletion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    So turn auto roof framing off.

    Actually, I'm not sure if you even have to do that. A copied Rafter that's been changed this way might not get deleted when auto re-framed. I know they don't when I manually select "Build Roof Framing".

    Also, changing the Layer might prevent the deletion.
    I do not believe that is true. Turning off auto framing limits what we can do. If anything I would suggest building a psolid and putting that in place.
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    Lew, As per Joe's instructions.
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    If the roof framing is rebuilt, the modified rafter will be overwritten, it doesn't make a difference if it has been moved to a different layer.

    However, it is easy to copy/paste/hold position to the clipboard, or another plan, and then replace it after rebuild, if in fact a framing rebuild were necessary.
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    Another method would be to just create a 3D Primitive Box and set the depth, height, width and angle to match the roof slope. Then adjust the z height to place it.

    Scott would probably do it in a section view as a PSolid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    ..............
    Scott would probably do it in a section view as a PSolid.
    Yes, that is what I would do and what I did in the soon to debut video.......... sorry, yes another video, especially for our good friend Lew Buttery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Carrick View Post
    Another method would be to just create a 3D Primitive Box and set the depth, height, width and angle to match the roof slope. Then adjust the z height to place it.
    Since a framing member is probably just a specialized 3d solid to begin with, maybe there just needs to be an option in the edit toolbar to "convert to...3D solid" that could be used to convert "specialized" solids into "general" solids, and vise-versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW Dave View Post
    Since a framing member is probably just a specialized 3d solid to begin with, maybe there just needs to be an option in the edit toolbar to "convert to...3D solid" that could be used to convert "specialized" solids into "general" solids, and vise-versa.
    Better yet is to be able to have a check box that would retain the rafter (or any beams) in spite of the AUTO REBUILD FRAMING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    Better yet is to be able to have a check box that would retain the rafter (or any beams) in spite of the AUTO REBUILD FRAMING.
    That too........
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