Chief Vs Autocad

[moak]

You can model anything with Chief. Sloping walls can be a bit of a challenge, but some users have devised a way to do it. Chief blows Archicad away.

[RMorrison]

Chief blows Archicad away.

Hmm, I've been using both programs for roughly 15 years, and I would strongly disagree with that statement.

[dshall]

You can model anything with Chief. Sloping walls can be a bit of a challenge, but some users have devised a way to do it. Chief blows Archicad away.

I am assuming The Moakster is fairly well versed in both programs, and he would choose CA for 99% of his projects.

Now Mr. Curbudgeon says this,

Hmm, I've been using both programs for roughly 15 years, and I would strongly disagree with that statement.

So the questions to Richard are:
-when would he choose to use Archicad over CA?
-Does he use both to complete a project and if so, why?
-Would he use CA for a particular 3000 sf home and would he choose Archicad for different 3000 sf home?
-What governs his decision to use a particular program over the other?

[jcaffee]

So the questions to Richard are:
-when would he choose to use Archicad over CA?

Say, for this...

http://youtu.be/GGhp_GzB3FU

Lots of complex subassemblies w/killer organ music!

jon

[dshall]

Say, for this...

http://youtu.be/GGhp_GzB3FU

Lots of complex subassemblies w/killer organ music!

jon

Well, that is impressive, but I did not see them put in a handicap curb cut ramp, can Archicad do that?

[moak]

Well, that is impressive, but I did not see them put in a handicap curb cut ramp, can Archicad do that?

Not from my experience, nor can it handle moldings or cabinetry as fluidly as Chief.

[dshall]

Not from my experience, nor can it handle moldings or cabinetry as fluidly as Chief.

Okay, but the next time you do a Sagrada de Familia, you probably would choose Archicad, is that a fair statement?

[RMorrison]

Say, for this...

http://youtu.be/GGhp_GzB3FU

Lots of complex subassemblies w/killer organ music!

jon

Well, that was a couple of versions back. It's more powerful now.

[RMorrison]

So the questions to Richard are:
-when would he choose to use Archicad over CA?
-Does he use both to complete a project and if so, why?
-Would he use CA for a particular 3000 sf home and would he choose Archicad for different 3000 sf home?
-What governs his decision to use a particular program over the other?

In general, I use Chief for design (it's faster for modeling) and ArchiCAD for CDs (it's faster for CDs, and no issues with schedules. hehe). For simpler projects (one story or alterations), I do everything in Chief. I would prefer to do everything in Chief, but until schedules and CAD are improved, I'm still going to use the best tool for the job.

[dshall]

In general, I use Chief for design (it's faster for modeling) and ArchiCAD for CDs (it's faster for CDs, and no issues with schedules. hehe). For simpler projects (one story or alterations), I do everything in Chief. I would prefer to do everything in Chief, but until schedules and CAD are improved, I'm still going to use the best tool for the job.

Thanks for that Richard. Maybe one day if people are interested, we could do a workshop, and users can demonstrate how they go about putting a project together. I would be very interested in seeing how architects go about this process. As a designer (not an architect), I am sure my projects do not have the same amount of information as yours do.

Many users have some idea of my process via the vids I do, but I have seen very little from other users. Is anybody interested in doing a workshop to demonstrate the process you go through? I have found these workshops are always beneficial to all the attendees, all you need is one golden nugget that makes the time well spent.

I would love to see how Mr. Curmudgeon, Perry, JPC, JC, Glenn, Andy, The Alan's (there are 3 or 4 of them), Bryce, Jim and a few others go about their business. If you guys are interested, please let me know, and I will put one together, this could be good for all of us.

[Ron Ravenscroft]

You can model anything with Chief. Sloping walls can be a bit of a challenge, but some users have devised a way to do it. Chief blows Archicad away.

I don't think so, have you ever looked at the way Archicad handles Construction Docs.