Best method for creating a bath cut out in a raised level

[lbuttery]

I would do it Joe's way - most likely

get it to look good in 3D the easiest way

then create a CAD detail to show how it would really be built

Lew

[Tommy Blair]

I think what the op is asking is to raise the whole bathroom floor and set the tub level with the floor. Of course you need framing for that. I think for that room, you would need to create a different floor using the floor structure in the room DBX. A floor hole for the tub and some patching on the 1st flr ceiling ,if the bath is on the 2nd floor.

That is what I thought the OP was asking too (by looking at his image) which means the cabinet, slab or solid idea really wouldn't apply. I didn't reply with this because I figured I was the only one who took his question wrong.

[mkennedy]

That's not how I would build it in the real world. I would frame the floor and subfloor, rough in my plumbing, and treat this like any other tub deck. No subfloor would create all sorts of thru floor draft stop requirements so I'm pretty sure I'd do it that way rather than trying to cut in blocking. Actually, I guess I could use insulation for the draft stops, which would be nice under the tub anyway, so maybe I'd save a sheet or two of plywood.
I thought about the idea of modeling it with a "null" story - just create a story with 0" clng height, but I see that getting complicated. I've done it to create attics with knee walls and developed living space, but that seems a little simpler.
Unless there was a dedicated room below, with walls to support the pony walls the main level floor framing would have to frame thru for structure, so I'm not sure how well just raising the floor level would work? This is really kind of fascinating, maybe I'll waste an hour and try to do it.

[Joe Carrick]

So, some of us thought that this was a "Tub Deck" and some of us thought that OZ wanted to raise the entire Bathroom Floor and recess the tub into that. I don't know which is right - only OZ would know that.

I think that the pic he posted was just too limited in area to show that this was just a raised area around the tub, not the entire bathroom.

[Tommy Blair]

I think that the pic he posted was just too limited in area to show that this was just a raised area around the tub, not the entire bathroom.

That's right Joe which is why I thought I was missunderstanding after seeing yall post.

[dshall]

Scott,

The attached Pic shows the steps to do it. You can eliminate all the face Items in the Base Cabinet if you want but that's not necessary.

1. Place a Cabinet and Size it.
2. Put the tub in it
3. Create a Custom Countertop
4. Break the Countertop and adjust it's shape
5. Edit the Countertop so that it's the same Height as the Cabinet (dbx)

That's it - the Counter Top can be as complex a shape as you want.

Got it, but is does not allow a base of one material and a countertop of another material. Unless I am proved otherwise, my method is more universal

[dshall]

Wasn't the question about raising the whole bathroom, and not just the tub? Wouldn't you also need framing?

I think he was looking for a platform tub and not neccerilyh raising the bathroom floor.

[dshall]

As per Perry's q, what about structure?

Are we looking to just model this for a 3D view, or are we looking to produce drawings for something we can really build?

I assume model for 3d view

[dshall]

I would do it Joe's way - most likely

get it to look good in 3D the easiest way

then create a CAD detail to show how it would really be built

Lew

Okay, well let's see if you can produce a model.... IOW, for me, a base of one material and a top with a different material. If you want one material Joe's way works..................

[mkennedy]

Joe:
I think the pic showed a raised floor, but when I'm framing I'm not sure I see the difference? Call it a really big tub deck, call it a small roof with a tub stuck thru the roof.
I'm pretty sure that the vertical members need to bear on...what? Beams, walls or floor framing. Seems to me I'd likely just roll out my floor, treat this as a tub deck, maybe a 10'x14' tub deck, call it a Roman Tub.

[lbuttery]

Scott:

by Joe's way I meant just get it to look good in 3D
using any methods/materials as needed

without worrying about 'structure"

then create a CAD detail to show how it will really be built

Lew

[mkennedy]

Yeah, I'm obsessed - I wanna do all my details live.

[Joe Carrick]

Okay, well let's see if you can produce a model.... IOW, for me, a base of one material and a top with a different material. If you want one material Joe's way works..................

Please elucidate....

What do you mean in terms of the base being a different material? Do you mean that the vertical surfaces are different than the top surface?

[Joe Carrick]

Yeah, I'm obsessed - I wanna do all my details live.

In that case then you need CA to address "Raised Platforms with Framing" and "Symbols that Cut Holes in Raised Platforms".

While they're at it they can add all the other Symbol Options that are missing.

[dshall]

Please elucidate....

What do you mean in terms of the base being a different material? Do you mean that the vertical surfaces are different than the top surface?

Yes, I am talking about a 4" thick TOP over a base cabinet.