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  1. #1
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    Doug,
    Thanks, It has always been my understanding, logically, everything builds in CA relative to a baseline. So, what to chose for that baseline? The one thing all structures have in common, regardless of design, is a first floor somewhere. I think that makes the most sense for a baseline. Knowing that, I'm fairly confident in the positiion of everything +/_ that baseline. As you mentioned, worse case is entering the incorrect direction, but hardly an issue.

    So, I must have completely missed the point of this post, but I wanted to thank you for confirming my thoughts on the issue of where the placement of everything in elevation stems from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dshall View Post
    I am curious as to what everybody set there TERRAIN ELEVATION at.
    A little late to the party, but here is mine.

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    BTW: 20' for f.f. is wrong since that puts f.f. at grade. Should be 20'8" for monoslab. (4" for slab + 4" stone fill) -- Just Nit Picking to aggravate my "virtual web" friend -- I play golf very badly and calif is too far for a match.

    Attached is latest plan. How do I get the primary contours to read both local elev. and sea level using regions? Back of lot can not graded, too many trees.Keep in mind, I never do this. I just add a note of sea level to the local maker ref and everything is acceptable -- But what if?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gteacher View Post
    .....Should be 20'8" for monoslab......
    I added an 8" base pad around the structure, then raised the slab top 12" above the pad, to get 20'-8". My measurements are to the top of the slab and not finished floor. Did I give the wrong answer to Scott?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambrozac View Post
    I added an 8" base pad around the structure, then raised the slab top 12" above the pad, to get 20'-8". My measurements are to the top of the slab and not finished floor. Did I give the wrong answer to Scott?

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    Yep..... Wrong, but who cares, who will win the super bowl, I predict the giants but I have been wrong with all year long so bet on the pats
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    Quote Originally Posted by gteacher View Post
    BTW: 20' for f.f. is wrong since that puts f.f. at grade. Should be 20'8" for monoslab. (4" for slab + 4" stone fill) -- Just Nit Picking to aggravate my "virtual web" friend -- I play golf very badly and calif is too far for a match.

    Attached is latest plan. How do I get the primary contours to read both local elev. and sea level using regions? Back of lot can not graded, too many trees.Keep in mind, I never do this. I just add a note of sea level to the local maker ref and everything is acceptable -- But what if?
    Gerry,
    These people have a pond/moat around the house! Is this the existing or proposed? Or are just trying to see if this can be done with regions?
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    Garry

    This is a existing lot with actual site survey. The lot was excavated 50+ years ago for a farm drainage line and left in this state. Owners are trying to build there because it is an inherited lot and a freebee. Most of the lot can not be graded because of number of trees. The location picked is the only one economical considering fill required if total regrading is rejected.

    The amount of fill needed here might make this unpractical. -- my point to Owner - but who knows. That's why I overlaid the pad on the site data.

    My point is that regions are not feasible here. Only option if sea level data would be required is mass selection and raise/lower of all points to new level. Easy enough, but does not require setting pad elev or anything else to zero. I would leave auto-cal on with adjustment and everything would line up.

    Also note that in my area, this is not required. Only one data point at sea level need be shown. We're still talking 6 vs half dozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gteacher View Post
    My point is that regions are not feasible here.
    It is very doable with the region tool, I was just asking as it is a bit strange.
    You also said that this detail is not required, begs the question of why you would be wasting your time?
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    just a link to Scott's video for Gerry:
    http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?t=57672

    keeps everything in one thread

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    Glenn:

    I just downloaded your 3 plans that you posted earlier
    and the Terrain relative to floor elevations with custom Pad Elevation.plan
    was empty

    If you have it, please post it

    If not, don't worry about it

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    Please please please add the terrain contour adjustment option, working on a tough site and would love to be able to flip back and forth between contours relative to sea level and back to relative to finish floor, please.
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    That coming from someone who doesn't help unless he get paid for it.
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    Gary does help and helps often

    He chooses the level he wants to assist at, just as all of us do

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    Quote Originally Posted by perryh View Post
    That coming from someone who doesn't help unless he get paid for it.
    Perry, You know, I have helped many here on the forum. I help if I have time, I don't if I am busy. You don't need to accuse me of something that is untrue.
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    Yep, you do. I just don't like anyone messing with the person who helps more than anyone, around here. You could learn a lot from him also. What he teaches , ain't in no books. And its got me out of many a jam. Thank you to that person who we shall keep nameless. You got a friend in me.
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