If I bought a CRAY super computer will CA be faster?

[Joe Carrick]

As far as tha SAM goes, I have found no problems, I have been using it for over 3 years.

Are you sure about that? Seems like you may have found a problem but aren't ready to admit it.
Sometimes it results in something remaining that wasn't intended - some of which could be memory hogs.

[dshall]

Are you sure about that? Seems like you may have found a problem but aren't ready to admit it.
Sometimes it results in something remaining that wasn't intended - some of which could be memory hogs.

Which problem have I found?

[Joe Carrick]

Which problem have I found?

Aren't you complaining about speed?

[sherpa_jones]

PS: I am appreciative of being reminded of the save-as/reuse of older plan and layout files for future use. I have done this in the past and found it problematic empirically, any apparent time "saved" is lost due to the plan or layout's earlier associations to earlier plan files.

David,

If you open your last file as a template, not only should this association be broken, but if you use the time tracker, it will be cleared. There may be other benifits as well.

[Doug Park]

64 Bit Chief will use as much memory as your OS/Hardware can handle. Many systems can't handle more than about 16GB but I would expect that number to climb over time. I doubt that a model that used a full 16GB of memory would be very usable though as it would probably end up being very slow due to the complexity.

We don't test/support on any server products but in theory Chief should work on them because they are based on pretty much exactly the same OS as the high end workstation versions. From what I understand there should be zero advantage of running a server version of the OS unless you are actually running a server.

Windows 7 64 Bit is the way to go with Chief today.

For anyone still on XP that wants to remain compatible with Chief into the future I would recommend upgrading to Windows 7. I would like to drop support of XP when Windows 8 ships but we will probably still support it for X5. I'm going to push for X5 to be the last version of Chief that supports XP but I'm not sure that will fly. If I thought I could get away with it I would push for X4 to be the last XP version.

Every version of OS that we have to support takes some small amount of features away because it takes time to make things work right on all the operating systems. But more than that it decreases the overall quality because of less testing.

From what I'm seeing Windows 8 should be very compatible with software that works well with Vista and Windows 7. Our preliminary tests show that X4 runs flawlessly on it, but things can change.

[thorn]

Windows 7 64 Bit is the way to go with Chief today.

For anyone still on XP that wants to remain compatible with Chief into the future I would recommend upgrading to Windows 7. I would like to drop support of XP when Windows 8 ships but we will probably still support it for X5. I'm going to push for X5 to be the last version of Chief that supports XP but I'm not sure that will fly. If I thought I could get away with it I would push for X4 to be the last XP version.

Please no.......not yet.
There are some of us not ready for Windows 7, or Windows 7 is not ready for us.

http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?t=57256

[portrait]

Max and Doug, thanks for the information. They were really helpful for me.

[Max]

Max and Doug, thanks for the information. They were really helpful for me.

Ozgur,
After making my post yesterday I continued to work with my Windows Server 2008 Installation, making several adjustments and keeping a watchful eye on the Events Logs under Administrative Tools for errors. I got things running well enough that I went ahead and activated the software (only one day left).

Today I was reminded I needed to download the latest service patch for my version of Chief which I did. Now that version is running better than ever before with no lag time at all. With the option I have now to run Chief with all the memory my system will support (8 gigs I think but not sure yet) I now plan to go ahead and add all the memory I can.

Maybe I spoke too soon yesterday because the more I use this system the better I like it. As I mentioned yesterday, this version of Vista does not come configured with all the fluff but rather focuses on stability, security and, of course, server side functions. Will keep you posted as I go. My wife and I are headed to Colorado for a week so will not be around to use it until after the first but I will post more after I have a chance to log in more time.

Edit: One more thing I wanted to add after thinking about it, I do like the fact that running this version of Vista is allowing me to inject new life in an older setup, making the need for latest and greatest unnecessary, at least for now while everything is still very uncertain economically speaking. Microsoft will be supporting this version for quite some time into the future as well.

[portrait]

Max,
I'll be waiting for your further observations. Have nice time in Colorado!

[perryh]

In The computer world, you can't stay with one operating system for very long. It will just not work. The software companies keep updating their software so you have to pay to update, and keep them viable. They never intend to stop and say everything is good. Every time Microsoft develops a new system, the software Co's must also update, but you also get a better product. I have friends that bought windows 98 and still try to use it, not good because nothing works anymore, but they refuse to buy a new computer because theirs still works, that just won't be good for anyone. They think I can fix it for them, how funny is that. go to windows 7, or wait for 8, if your computer is up to snuff. I have learned that I will be paying out for these things for the rest of my life.

[Gary Doski]

In The computer world, you can't stay with one operating system for very long. It will just not work. The software companies keep updating their software so you have to pay to update, and keep them viable. They never intend to stop and say everything is good. Every time Microsoft develops a new system, the software Co's must also update, but you also get a better product. I have friends that bought windows 98 and still try to use it, not good because nothing works anymore, but they refuse to buy a new computer because theirs still works, that just won't be good for anyone. They think I can fix it for them, how funny is that. go to windows 7, or wait for 8, if your computer is up to snuff. I have learned that I will be paying out for these things for the rest of my life.

Well said Perry, I agree completely!

[lbuttery]

I've been buying computers since 1978 about every 4-5 years

It's a lifetime habit


Lew

[Max]

In The computer world, you can't stay with one operating system for very long..... I have learned that I will be paying out for these things for the rest of my life.

I find this interesting. I am thinking it may be more of a case of "Big Boys and their Toys".

[Gary Doski]

I find this interesting. I am thinking it may be more of a case of "Big Boys and their Toys".

Max, you hit the nail on the head! I get a new computer because I want the new power/speed this or that (arrh,arrh arrh). I have been through 5 machines in the past 10 years, my wife has had 2.

[perryh]

I find this interesting. I am thinking it may be more of a case of "Big Boys and their Toys".

OK Max, go ahead and keep your old computer and see where that gets you. You will be left in the dust but thats OK, if you enjoy slow computers.