Hatch Wall Defaults

[Moshe]

Chief X2 question - Where can I alter the default hatching and size that gets put into a wall when I use the hatch wall command?

[5sheds]

Select the wall hatching, open the DBX, click on the fill style tab.....

[Moshe]

I am not sure if I stated that clearly enough....I need to alter the definition of the DEFAULT that automatically drops in to the wall when I want to hatch, not to alter the hatch after it has been placed. Was your method to alter it after it has been placed....Chief seems to have an automatic default setting that is an angled hatch with a spacing of 2"....I want to change that default.

[Grantbd]

Chief X2 question - Where can I alter the default hatching and size that gets put into a wall when I use the hatch wall command?

Moshe
You will have to hatch all your walls then hold down the control key while in HATCH WALL mode and Marque select your entire plan and open the Hatch Wall dbx and select your preferred fill I think. Just as quick as setting a default.
In answer to your question, in the Hatch wall dbx but only after you have hatched a wall

[Glenn Woodward]

Moshe,

You are probably better off defining a wall type with its own layers and hatch patterns, then you don't have to hatch any walls.
Why are you using the Hatch Wall command anyway - I think it is a hang over from very early versions when we couldn't define wall types.

[Tommy Blair]

Moshe,

You are probably better off defining a wall type with its own layers and hatch patterns, then you don't have to hatch any walls.
Why are you using the Hatch Wall command anyway - I think it is a hang over from very early versions when we couldn't define wall types.

Glenn, I think the wall hatch tool is very useful and I use it all the time in my existing/demo plans and proposed plans for a remodel. How useful it is depends on how you use it.

[perryh]

Just a misunderstanding here, no harm --no foul.

[David J. Potter]

Chief X2 question - Where can I alter the default hatching and size that gets put into a wall when I use the hatch wall command?

Moshe, as far as I know you cannot edit or change the default hatch for the hatch wall tool.

I am not the "last word" and frankly I have never felt the need to change the default hatch type or size (probably explains why I am not certain).

Your question seems to me to be perfectly straight-forward and understandable but language, as Scott has pointed out is a fragile vehicle sometimes to convey a perfect duplication of the understanding originally intended but it is all we have.

Others have offered work-rounds:

custom wall types where you certainly can control their plan-view appearance, even 2-D CAD fill boxes on custom layers could be used.

I would be quite happy to be "wrong" (it there is a way to alter the hatch pattern).

DJP

PS: since my post above Scott Hall made a video showing how to change the hatch pattern, per wall:

http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....370#post417370

but this does not work in X2 (it does work as shown in X4) sorry

[Glenn Woodward]

I believe that V10 was the last version that you could specify the default hatch scale, but even in that version you couldn't specify the default pattern.

[Moshe]

Thanks David!! Very helpful.

[Glenn Woodward]

PS: since my post above Scott Hall made a video showing how to change the hatch pattern, per wall:

http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....370#post417370

but this does not work in X2 (it does work as shown in X4) sorry

Works OK in my X2!

[dshall]

Works OK in my X2!

That is because you have the Aussie version, remember the louvers, we could never control the size of them until X-4....... CA likes to challenge us Yanks.....

[5sheds]

This wall hatch tool could be very useful especially for alterations (remodels), I had never used it before, now I wish I could change the defaults aswell!!
Thanks Moshe and Scott!

[Sydney23]

Old thread, but still an ongoing time-waster for me.

Using wall definitions and showing wall layers is OK for construction, but I need walls to display differently per layer/annoset. So an estate agent (realtor?) might want to simply see black filled black lines for walls, the local government planning department might want to see simple wall widths and colour scheme (e.g. green = new, red = demolish, grey = existing), the builder might appreciate the visual complexity of layers turned on to help explain what he's got to build/demo, etc, etc. I use hatching, manually edited to show correct colour and thicken the barely visible 1pt angled hatch lines, to make up for this shortfall in my CA.* It's a bore.

I know I can also use a CAD detail of the as built to show demo areas, but I still value being able to fill walls and sections of walls to get my point across depending on who the plan is for - surely the whole point of layers?

*I mean 'my CA' as in how I understand and use CA - if there is a better way of displaying the same wall different ways according to audience needs, I'm all ears.

It seems odd because I can make most things look different ways on different layer sets using layers, but not wall fills. I can switch off wall layers, alter their outline thickness and colour, but that is not what I want visually - I want to change the colour of the whole wall (i.e. fill). Using hatching or CAD boxes is a very basic and time consuming way of doing this. If I could have more advanced hatching - with fill and line default control and control by layer - that would be very useful to me.

I'm guessing my workflow isn't how CA designed the software, but I have spent a long time trying to find/understand better ways.

Hope that makes sense.

[kiwideziner]

I use a seperate wall type for my demo walls with appropriate hatching. Also wall type for existing and new, this makes things pretty clear on the con-docs