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    Score lines in stucco or eifs

    I am looking more in the lines of eifs, but how would you show a score line?

    Thank you,

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    How about just a CAD line.

    Are you talking about construction joints to minimize cracking?
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    I am looking for "v" joints for looks - remember I am working for architects

    They are using the "score" lines to break up the mono blank wall with eifs. "Adds interest and matches the windows" (the one I was working on yesterday that you so kindly helped me out on). I am not sure how much would show in a rendering though.
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    You will find answers to your question by doing a search for "lines in stucco"

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    Angela:

    Here is a prior thread with excellent information:

    http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....control+joints

    In that stucco and EIFS are quite different, I would try to contact one of the more common EIFS product manufacturers you see being installed in your area ... Dryvit is a common one in my area. Check out their spec's and installation requirements and call their tech rep for advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helavagal View Post
    I am looking more in the lines of eifs, but how would you show a score line?

    Thank you,

    Angela
    I think I would use a molding. I have used this method for showing expansion joints in concrete patios and it seems to work fairly well.
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    can i recess the molding to look like a part of the eifs has been cut out?
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    No, not easily, but you can use a 1"X1" molding and recess it into the wall 3/4" so that 1/4" sticks out and from a distance you really do not pick up on that.
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    beveled divisions

    you could use a different wall type and make the/stucco/eifs out of a polyline solid. I will post an example

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    bevel

    not to scale, just an example
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    Angela:

    Here's a Dryvit detail for an EIFS horizontal expansion joint to give you an idea how it might be done during actual installation:

    http://www.dryvit.com/fileshare/doc/...l/ds170_18.pdf

    They have lots of other details for all their products on their website:

    http://www.dryvit.com/elit.asp?country_id=1
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    Angela,

    I may have an idea but need to know more:

    Are the V shape recessed areas horizontal, vertical or both?

    If horizontal, do they cut through wall openings or are they continuous above the openings?
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    The aesthetic v joint will be horizontal. All they are using it for is to break up the massive eifs wall
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    Start with a newly created wall with all layer except your finished layer of ELF. Create a grid pattern in elevation view for all your joints, convert those lines to "V" grove (molding you created)to represent your joints. Prior to this offset all your lines that will become your expansion joints a given amount in both directions to be used for snap points. (distance depends on your joint profile). Put these lines on a separate layer. Couple of ways to do the next step, either clean up all the intersection and convert the newly created boxes to solids 1/8" thick or whatever your finished thickness is. Or using the lines offset as guide lines to drag solids/slabs/soffits whatever method you prefer, to fit each shape. Set your thickness and material accordingly, If they are well planned and layed out evenly, you should be able to copy quite quickly.
    For windows and doors you'll have to use holes in solids. Or plan around the windows and doors.
    See example , just a quickly but I think you'll get the idea. BTW, I didn't create a new wall, that's why there are 2 layers of stucco. Elininate the finished surface on your wall. The inserts will be your finish,
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    Angela:

    In that case I would just make custom molding profiles, one that cuts at openings and one (or more if necessary) for above (and below) the openings. If the windows are the same height as the doors then you only need 2 moldings.

    You can then create exterior molding polylines. For those at the openings you can break them and turn of the segments at the openings.
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