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Thread: Hardware Guide for X3
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01-18-2010, 07:16 PM #31
3) A 64 bit OS is a must have.
Windows 7 64-bit is the best OS to run X3 on. X3 will ship as a 32 bit application.
The main reason to go 64 bit is that your extra memory will be used by the OS and other applications making your system faster when dealing with large models in Chief.
CA and most other software is moving to 64-bit rapidly
why buy a 32-bit PC that will be out-dated soon ....
get a minimum of 4 GB and 8 GB would be even better
don't wait for Chief if you need a PC now, get one that will be good for
the next 4 - 5 years
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01-19-2010, 03:01 AM #32
Lew I think you missed my question. I know all about 64 bit for the OS. Read your own quote:
X3 will ship as a 32 bit application.
(Perhaps I should have used the quote above as a lead in to my own question and the one below to set the discussion)
ie quote from autodesk website:
Native 64-bit Support: New native 64-bit support enhances Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010 software’s ability to handle large projects and improves performance and stability for memory-intensive tasks such as rendering, printing, model upgrading, and file importing and exporting.
How does Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010 work with large teams and projects?.
The native 64-bit version of Autodesk Revit Architecture 2010 surmounts the 4-gig memory limitation found in all 32-bit applications, which enhances the software’s capability to handle large projects. As a result, users of the 64-bit software may see improved performance and stability for memory-intensive tasks such as rendering, printing, model upgrading, and file importing and exporting compared to the 32-bit versions of the Revit platform products.Last edited by Sledge; 01-19-2010 at 03:18 AM.
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01-19-2010, 05:12 AM #33
Rod:
I think we are on the same page
My main point was if X3 is not 64-bit then X4 most likely will be
so buying 32-bit PC's should be a no-no
LewLew Buttery
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01-19-2010, 09:01 AM #34
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01-19-2010, 07:10 PM #35
Keith,
Thanks for that. I don't have my tinfoil hat on, so whilst the 64bit OS can access >4Gb or RAM, is there any X3 32 bit memory limitations? I recall something about a 2GB threshold.
I know there's a switch parameter you can add to the boot.ini that forces the OS to contain itself to the amount of RAM you designate by this parameter and I was wondering if this was the reason (ie 2GB application limitation) such a switch was used.
Lew,
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01-19-2010, 08:00 PM #36
Yes, Windows puts limits on how much memory an application can access. A 32-bit application is only allowed to access 2 GB of memory, even though, in theory, they could access 4 GB of memory. This limitation still exists in the 64-bit versions of Windows.
Yes, you can set how much memory is divided between "user space" and "kernel space", but the application has to be built with IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE, which Chief is not.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...8VS.85%29.aspx
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01-19-2010, 10:02 PM #37
Thanks for all that handy info Keith.
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01-20-2010, 03:59 AM #38Registered Abuser Demoted
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Frank, you have a system that's getting a "little long in the tooth" but with a decent processor speed. I noticed that your memory size seems a bit low and you may benefit from bumping up from that 512 to 2048mb if your motherboard can handle it. My older AMD's are operating at the minimum of the recommended specs and improved a bit by increasing the memory.-Brad
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01-21-2010, 02:15 PM #39
What is Raid? What is the difference between 0 Raid and 1 Raid? Do I need to get this on my new computer?
Bennie Cullipher,Jr.
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01-21-2010, 04:54 PM #40
Bennie:
rather than type lots of info here
try a google search on wiki Raid backup
or raid backup
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01-26-2010, 01:20 AM #41Registered User Promoted
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Keith, what about SS HDDs? Have you done any tests with them to determine if they're worth it with X3?
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01-26-2010, 08:17 AM #42Administrator
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We don't have any information on SSDs (solid state drives). I would wait a bit before investing in them. Instead look at getting a hard drive with a larger disk cache as that will most likely help more than an SSD. But since we haven't benchmarked these we don't know for sure. Other here may have experience with them.
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01-26-2010, 08:32 AM #43
In my new system, I'm using an OCZ Colossus 500Gb SSD, and I'm telling you, this thing RIPS! As soon as someone comes up with something to benchmark, I'll put a test on it. At any rate, I'm using it for Win7 OS, and all of my programs.
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01-26-2010, 09:07 AM #44Allen Brown
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01-26-2010, 05:32 PM #45
I thought you'd never ask
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