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Thread: Butt and Through walls
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10-05-2011, 05:34 AM #1
Rob White
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Butt and Through walls
I think I might be going over old ground. I have read a few thread on this 'Butting walls' or 'through wall' issue, but I cannot find an answer rectifying my walls that are not butting propery
On the attached drawing, I checked the through wall box, both for the start and end of the cavity walls. I have also made sure the single butting wall are not checked 'through wall' so they should 'butt', but the wall do not butt, but continue the cavity. (I think there are too many 'buts' in that sentence....but it does make sense...I think. Read it slowly).
Forget the sentence and look at the attachment.
In Cheif X4 can I stop the single walls when butting in to the cavity walls from protruing and closing the cavity.
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10-05-2011, 05:51 AM #2
Rob:
If you don't get a solution you should send the plan to tech support as they want to see examples
of how the new tool in X4 is not working properly
LewLew Buttery
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10-06-2011, 03:22 AM #3
Rob, grab the intersecting walls that are going through the other walls and pull the ends back into the house. Then make sure the interior double wall is not broken at the intersection, then pull the intersecting wall back to the double wall, making sure you don't pull it farther than the first wall. It should do just what you want.
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10-07-2011, 09:12 AM #4
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I'm seeing exactly the same thing with my plans in X4, and I don't think this happened in X3. I've tried the above suggestion but that doesn't work for me and I've tried changing settings but haven't yet found a solution yet.
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10-07-2011, 10:17 AM #5
Many times in my training guys will have similar things happen and call me to fix the problem.
95% of the time it is because they created a new wall type and do not have the layers properly set up (mostly the main layer).
4.9% of the time, they are using the Chief standard wall but have messed up the layers within it.
0.1% is some funky thing with the model.
Check how your wall layers are set up, making sure the main layer is correct.Gary Doski
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10-11-2011, 09:19 PM #6
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I have a project that has different wall types that butt together. (masonry walls with different block sizes). Not having the "butts wall tool" is very frustrating. X4 makes its own decisions on which wall butts and doesn't butt... That tool needs to re-instated. I don't care how many times I attempt to pull walls back and forth - it will not show correctly!
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10-12-2011, 03:33 AM #7
Brian:
send your examples to tech support
they have asked for examples
LewLew Buttery
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10-12-2011, 06:19 AM #8
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Rob,
Ran into a similar problem using ICF's. I found a workaround that may work for you, you will just have to try it. My problem was that I wanted my interior walls to attach to the ICF walls at the foam interface and not at the concrete layer (main layer, will be using Simpson Strong Ties to attach the interior walls to the surface of which are on the outside of the foam). The interior walls went through the foam and Butted at the concrete layer (main) as they should. I did not want to reset the main layer for my exterior ICF walls to the inside foam. That probably should have made the butting problem a non-problem, but would screw up a bunch of other things.
Try drawing a short very thin invisible wall (1/16" thick) as a furred wall inside where you want the Butt to be proper. The inside intersecting wall should Butt up to the invisible wall and should look better. I have discovered that you can place furred invisible walls actually inside an exterior wall, which I would not have thought possible. Also, there will be a grayed out extension of the intersecting wall that seems to be an artifact. I have turned the artifact in to tech support, but no fix yet.
I don't know if this might help. Looked like a similar problem from your attached picture.
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