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09-05-2009, 07:41 AM #1Registered User Promoted
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How to make Asian Style roofs in CA X2?
I have spent the day reading the different posts on here about Asian style roofs but I still don't understand how to do it. In the building that I am designing for my project I hope to have a roof that is more Chinese/Japanese in origin than a western style roof. I am not looking to make the ornate roof caps that are on some buildings but would rather just have the half round ridge caps.
Please remember I am new to Chief Architect and I am seeking the wisdom of the geniuses that I see posting all the time. I am so amazed by your work^^ and want to learn, so please help kindly^^
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09-05-2009, 07:51 AM #2
Play with the curved roof tool.
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09-05-2009, 08:02 AM #3
This thread should help
http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....ghlight=curved
mind you those pointed up corners look challengingYour privacy is important to us, your personal details will handled discreetly, and will not be shared with anyone except the CIA, FSB, MI6 or similar, then they will be placed on a USB stick and left on a bus.
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09-05-2009, 08:17 AM #4
ShaSha,
Welcome to the forum!
The turned-up eave corners would be a bit of a challenge for most users, new or otherwise but can be done with practice.
I would recommend you start like Rusty recommends by "playing" (trial and error experimentation with the tool to get a feel for how it is programmed to work) with the curved roof tool.
That is a great place to start.
In order to do this sort of roof you can auto generate the roofs as a starting point but then I would create one section profile and then copy-paste-locate that one curved profile of manual roof sections around the building and then manually connect their edges.
I apologize for the above explanation but being "New" does not change what it takes to manually create such a roof.
You will just have to learn the basics first (which will not create this type of roof) in order to have a basic understanding of manual roof tools.
Then from that foundation of competence you can then expand your abilities.
How long it takes is something only you can control as it will take intensive study along with practice sessions to create the knowledge and ability you need.
We are all here to help as we can but you must supply the intention to succeed followed up by your own study and practice.
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09-05-2009, 10:18 AM #5
ShaSha,
I haven't figured out how exactly to make just the corners turn up but this image is in the direction of what I meant in my prior post.
I worked out the first profile (the curving roof sections; in this case three roof sections to create the entire roof profile) and then copy-pasted-rotated them to the other three walls and then manually joined their edges.
I have never been tasked to do this sort of roof before so this is my first try.
I expect I will have to add an additional roof plane in between each corner pair to flatten the major eaves.
HTH
DJP
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09-05-2009, 11:01 AM #6
To do the upturned hip ends, I don't see a way, but I am really an untrained newbie, and still using V.10.
Chief roof planes are either flat or cylindrical. While they can be rotated by angling their baselines, I have never come across a way to warp them as needed to do an upturned pagoda roof corner, nor other types of warpings I am interested in.
You can warp surfaces with the terrain tool, but unfortunately, you cannot build with it, as you would need for the azumaya-type roof desired.
A couple clips are attached from work I've done in Sketchup, which can be used for the importation of symbols into Chief.Last edited by Gene Davis; 09-05-2009 at 11:03 AM.
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09-05-2009, 11:27 AM #7
Gene, you have observed correctly in that you can angle the baseline but not curve the baseline which this type of roof requires at its corners.
I suppose the corners could be modeled in Sketch Up and added to the corner ends but until we can curve the roof planes and their baselines this is slightly out of reach in detail.
ShaSha, thanks for making me look!
DJP
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09-05-2009, 11:28 AM #8
I think I would do as David P suggests and then for tbe upturned eaves at corners I would use a psolid.... Might be tedious. Maybe create the upturn with terrain and create a symbol out of that
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09-05-2009, 02:47 PM #9Registered User Promoted
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Wow, so many replies so fast. Thank you everyone for your answers.
I have tried to make the curved roofs as you said, so far I have not been able to make the same type of roof as you have David Potter. However, I have finally successfully made a concave curved roof. I am still experimenting with how to make the curve the way I want it. The curved up roof corners have proven to be extremely difficult for me, but I feel better know that others have had difficulty with it too. I am sure that I could get by without the use of the curved up corners.
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I will try to post my results later so that maybe I can receive further instruction or assistance in what I should do next.Chief Version X2
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09-05-2009, 03:05 PM #10Registered User Promoted
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I have one other question in this picture you can see that the side of the building has a gabled roof, but at the same time it has a second roof that comes along lower roof ridge that goes around the whole building. How would this achieved, or is it a result of the "porch" below? I have made something similar it in ACAD but I am not sure how to make it in CA X2. When I tried to import the structure it didn't import properly and was distorted. Besides it is more fun attempting these things in a new program than in something I am slightly more familiar with.
Last edited by ShaSha; 09-05-2009 at 03:32 PM.
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09-05-2009, 04:17 PM #11
Build that as another roof plane and then put in an attic wall. I think it is called a dutcb gable
D. Scott Hall (The Bridge Troll)
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We can please some of the people some of the time, but we can't please all the people all of the time..... but I will keep trying.
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