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    steps down to garage finish floor

    Hi All......having a moment here....cant remember how many steps or distance I need from my finsih floor to a garage finish floor....I must be really tired....any help thanks, POP

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    I think the recommended (maybe code ???) is 7 3/4" or 8" this is to keep water runoff out of the house and also gas fumes

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    May also depend on the floor thickness...ie. joist depth.
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    thanks, guys....I am working on someones plan not mine and not sure of the height from garage fin. floor to first floor finish floor....I guessing with what I measure ... its a 4 in. drop to a platform from finish floor and I am going with 8 in. rises to garage floor...my best guess.....thanks for your reply as always...POP

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    here is the IRC code reference and it doesn't cover height

    old CABO code required 4"

    check with your permit office as each locale can be different, even if they use the IRC they can modify it

    The IRC states:

    R309.1 Opening protection.
    Openings from a private garage
    directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted.
    Other openings between the garage and residence shall
    be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 13/8 inches (35
    mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less
    than 13/8 inches (35 mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.


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    I'm told It was removed from IRC 2006, and is no longer a 4" min. requirement.
    Perhaps someone can verify this ... It was brought to my attention when I was bidding on a new home and questioned why there was no step or gas curb.????
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    Doug:

    The IRC code I posted doesn't reference the 4"

    I think it should, as it protects against water runoff and gas fumes

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    They might have taken it out to make room for codes that don't make sense..
    .........

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    They might have taken it out to make room for codes that don't make sense..


    Allen:

    Behave....

    Is it time for another beer

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    The IRC code I posted doesn't reference the 4"

    I think it should, as it protects against water runoff and gas fumes
    This was removed to allow for accessibility and visit-ability issues. No ramps needed in garages now.

    Fumes can be removed via ventilation in the garage.
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    This was removed to allow for accessibility and visit-ability issues. No ramps needed in garages now.


    Joey:

    that makes sense

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    Accessibility from the garage is not required, even in multi-family product that clearly falls under ADA guidelines.
    I would never provide drawings to a builder or custom client that does not have a minimum of a 4" step down to the garage.
    And VERY rarely would the site conditions even allow for such a thing.
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    I'm pretty sure the original IRC never had a provision for gas curbs. Local jursidictions have added that provision as part of their local amendments to the IRC.

    Here in Oregon, it has never been required, but I know of other places where 6" is the commonly amended height required from garage to house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builderlfd
    I'm pretty sure the original IRC never had a provision for gas curbs. Local jursidictions have added that provision as part of their local amendments to the IRC.
    Years have gone by and I've built my share of garages, in NJ. In every instance a gas curb or 4" min. step was required if it was an attached garage. I unfortuatley don't have any of my old copies of BOCA code books (which were then in force) to acually look it up. And even then I'm not sure if it would be in it. I can remember on plans done by others if it didn't have one, it did when I picked up my permits...from the Build. Dept. in red ink, "Gas Curb Required" Personally I still think it's not a bad idea. If a ramp is required due to handicap, so be it, fuels and/or such aren't going make it up the ramp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougM
    Years have gone by and I've built my share of garages, in NJ. In every instance a gas curb or 4" min. step was required if it was an attached garage. I unfortuatley don't have any of my old copies of BOCA code books (which were then in force) to acually look it up. And even then I'm not sure if it would be in it.
    FYI & FWIW...

    BOCA 1993 & 1996
    Section 407.0 Private Garages
    407.5 Door Sills: The sills of all door openings between private garages and the adjacent interior spaces shall be raised not less than 4 inches (102 mm) above the garage floor.
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