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08-08-2009, 05:31 PM #1Registered User Promoted
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steps down to garage finish floor
Hi All......having a moment here....cant remember how many steps or distance I need from my finsih floor to a garage finish floor....I must be really tired....any help thanks, POP
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08-08-2009, 06:21 PM #2
Pop:
I think the recommended (maybe code ???) is 7 3/4" or 8" this is to keep water runoff out of the house and also gas fumes
LewLew Buttery
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08-08-2009, 06:35 PM #3
May also depend on the floor thickness...ie. joist depth.
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08-08-2009, 06:40 PM #4Registered User Promoted
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thanks, guys....I am working on someones plan not mine and not sure of the height from garage fin. floor to first floor finish floor....I guessing with what I measure ... its a 4 in. drop to a platform from finish floor and I am going with 8 in. rises to garage floor...my best guess.....thanks for your reply as always...POP
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08-08-2009, 08:14 PM #5
Pop:
here is the IRC code reference and it doesn't cover height
old CABO code required 4"
check with your permit office as each locale can be different, even if they use the IRC they can modify it
The IRC states:
R309.1 Opening protection.
Openings from a private garage
directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted.
Other openings between the garage and residence shall
be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 13/8 inches (35
mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less
than 13/8 inches (35 mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
LewLew Buttery
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08-09-2009, 05:24 AM #6
I'm told It was removed from IRC 2006, and is no longer a 4" min. requirement.
Perhaps someone can verify this ... It was brought to my attention when I was bidding on a new home and questioned why there was no step or gas curb.????Doug Michel
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08-09-2009, 05:51 AM #7
Doug:
The IRC code I posted doesn't reference the 4"
I think it should, as it protects against water runoff and gas fumes
LewLew Buttery
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08-09-2009, 06:10 AM #8
They might have taken it out to make room for codes that don't make sense..
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08-09-2009, 06:12 AM #9
They might have taken it out to make room for codes that don't make sense..
Allen:
Behave....
Is it time for another beer
LewLew Buttery
Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"
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08-09-2009, 06:15 AM #10The IRC code I posted doesn't reference the 4"
I think it should, as it protects against water runoff and gas fumes
Fumes can be removed via ventilation in the garage.Joey R. Martin,aibd,cgp,cga,caps
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08-09-2009, 06:59 AM #11
Accessibility from the garage is not required, even in multi-family product that clearly falls under ADA guidelines.
I would never provide drawings to a builder or custom client that does not have a minimum of a 4" step down to the garage.
And VERY rarely would the site conditions even allow for such a thing.
My 2 cents...Ben Ledbetter
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08-09-2009, 07:00 AM #12
This was removed to allow for accessibility and visit-ability issues. No ramps needed in garages now.
Joey:
that makes sense
LewLew Buttery
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08-09-2009, 11:09 AM #13Registered User Promoted
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I'm pretty sure the original IRC never had a provision for gas curbs. Local jursidictions have added that provision as part of their local amendments to the IRC.
Here in Oregon, it has never been required, but I know of other places where 6" is the commonly amended height required from garage to house.Len Dalton
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08-09-2009, 01:12 PM #14Originally Posted by builderlfdDoug Michel
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08-09-2009, 02:29 PM #15
Doug
You know how a big a ramp you'll need to make it up that 4"?
With all the codes that are over the top, that one is a good idea..........
Allen Colburn Jr.
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