The wish list for stairs

[lbuttery]

I would also like the ability to block "everything" within the stairwell and be able to move them around as needed

real PITA to have to move each "component' and then get it all put back together again only to have to move it again

Lew

[Glenn Woodward]

Lew,
Are you aware of the "Stair Sections Move Independently" settings in Preferences...Architectural...Stairs?

Wendy,
I don't understand what is preventing you from doing non-code stairs. Can't you specify the tread width and lock it to get what you want?

[lbuttery]

Are you aware of the "Stair Sections Move Independently" settings in Preferences...Architectural...Stairs?


Glenn:

yes I am

but I don't understand what that has to do with moving a stairwell and it's set of "components", especially a stairwell that covers multiple floors as one entitity with it's own move handles and rotate handle etc

create a 3 story stairwell with landings and railings and partial walls and handrails and ... then try to move it to a new location

I need to try the edit area tool again but I don't remember having much luck with it before.

Lew

[Glenn Woodward]

Lew,

I thought you were trying to keep the stairs and landings on one floor together.
Should be no problem moving multi-floor stairs with Edit Area.

[WendyWelton]

Wendy,
I don't understand what is preventing you from doing non-code stairs. Can't you specify the tread width and lock it to get what you want?

Chief doesn't go higher than a 9" rise. Old stairs in New England do.

[WendyWelton]

Lew,

I thought you were trying to keep the stairs and landings on one floor together.
Should be no problem moving multi-floor stairs with Edit Area.

Actually, with X2 you don't even need Edit Area. A simple copy works beautifully.

Edit Area (All Floors) Visible also works to move multifloor chunks of stuff together, with a little planning.

While I would also like to be able to associate stairs on multiple floors, I would put fixing the things that cannot be done yet with stairs ahead of makng it faster/easer to do things than can currently be done.

As a matter of fact, in my someday dream world, we can "glue" walls in a stack, glue those stacks together in a group with their roof (an addition, a porch...)... But, I suspect that X7!

[perryh]

also in the new codes, you must illuminate the treads, is there anything in chief for this?

[dhowardaia]

Perry-

Where in the code does it say that treads must be illuminated? There is a general requirement for illumination of the 'means of egress', but the minimum illumination level is 1 fc at the walking surface- so minimal that basically ANY light fixture above a stair will suffice. I don't know of any requirementt that the treads need to be specially illuminated.

Dorothy

[perryh]

1205.4 Stairway illumination. Stairways within dwelling
units and exterior stairways serving a dwelling unit shall have
an illumination level on tread runs of not less than 1foot-candle
(11 lux). Stairs in other occupancies shall be governed by
Chapter 10.

A plan checker said to me recently "that applies to a separate lites within the tread level not overhead lites. Of course, I argued with him but instead of getting a ruling from "CBC" ,I just complied with what he thinks it is, less trouble. So now, I'm not sure.

[WendyWelton]

1205.4 Stairway illumination. Stairways within dwelling
units and exterior stairways serving a dwelling unit shall have
an illumination level on tread runs of not less than 1foot-candle
(11 lux). Stairs in other occupancies shall be governed by
Chapter 10.

A plan checker said to me recently "that applies to a separate lites within the tread level not overhead lites. Of course, I argued with him but instead of getting a ruling from "CBC" ,I just complied with what he thinks it is, less trouble. So now, I'm not sure.

Your plan checker has displayed a scary amount of ignorance. Before having all your clients pay for this fictional requirement, I would comply in the short term and then go get that ruling for the next client, and the one after that.

[dhowardaia]

Perry-

Wow- what jurisdiction was the plancheck? Coronado uses Esgil, and I've never had them require separate tread lights. I'm with Wendy- I'd fight it with the guy's supervisor next time.

Dorothy

[WHirsch]

Perry-

Wow- what jurisdiction was the plancheck? Coronado uses Esgil, and I've never had them require separate tread lights. I'm with Wendy- I'd fight it with the guy's supervisor next time.

Dorothy

Why wait for "next time"? If it ain't right (and in this case it certainly isn't), then why should any client have to pay for unnecessary work?

[perryh]

The city was in Orange County near L.A Calif. The city subs out the plan check to a local firm here and, believe it or not this kind of thing happens a lot. Some codes as this are written too vague,"tread illumination" could mean several things. So, what I do now is ,actually add the code note to the stair detail and let each city decide what they feel it means. Haven't had a problem with other cities.