wall length

[Tboy]

Dumb question from newbie!!
I create a wall and want to make the length 18' 2 3/16" long. I can't figure out how to do it other than tring to strech it.

[Gene Davis]

Doubleclick the wall. See in the dialog box where the length is? Overwrite that with the length you want.

This will work if the wall you want to shorten or lengthen is a wall unattached at its ends.

[Tboy]

When I double click the wall allI get is Wall Specification and nothing that give me the option to change the length.
I am using version 9.5

[The Irishman]

click on the wall, then click on the dimension you want to change, and you should get a set dimension line dialog box

[dshall]

Draw in a cad line where you want the wall to end and then grab end handle of wall and drag it to cad line and it will snap to cad line. Make sure snaps are on.

[Bradley Boltz]

Dumb question from newbie!!
I create a wall and want to make the length 18' 2 3/16" long. I can't figure out how to do it other than tring to strech it.

Here's a related (X2) question regarding the use of "Temp Dimensions" to properly adjust the length of a "stub wall". Attached is an image illustrating how a potentially useful tool or method does not easily (or acurately without using extra calcs) allow dimensioning a "stub wall" using the Wall Spec Dbx/ General Tab/ designate Wall Length, check Lock 'Start'.

I wanted Stub Wall Length= 4'-0" but had to calculate and enter Wall Length=4'-6 1/4" which is an unnecessary time consuming PITA. This is all caused by the way "Main Layer" designation of walls in Wall Spec Dbx/ Wall Types Tab/ Define wall type, screws up wall intersections and is waaaaay tooooooo INFLEXIBLE.

Wall intersections need to be individually controllable by the user. The ability to manually (and directly) override the Chief controlled (user semi-controlled) connections of walls is long overdue. A majority of drawing/ drafting headaches could be avoided by properly addressing this one issue.

Thanks for your consideration. (We also could use a "Humble" Smiley Face icon)
Regards,
Brad Boltz

[dshall]

I wanted Stub Wall Length= 4'-0" but had to calculate and enter Wall Length=4'-6 1/4"

That is why the cad line is req'd

[ebdesign]

Draw an invisible wall off the end of the stub wall & dimension to it.
No CAD line needed.
Jim

[Bradley Boltz]

That is why the cad line is req'd

The cad line was necessary in previous versions. In X2 you can control the wall lenght directly in the dbx and can lock the start, center or end. Drawing a cad line is a work-around and should be unnecessary with the new (semi-functional) "functionality" of the wall length dbx.

The current status of wall layers and the ways walls connect and display are what screws up a potentially usefull tool.

Regards,

Brad Boltz

[Bradley Boltz]

Draw an invisible wall off the end of the stub wall & dimension to it.
No CAD line needed.
Jim

Sorry Jim, that's an even older-school workaround I've had to use since v5. In X2 it would be unnecessary if "temp dimension" would find the innermost (but should be toggle definable on the spot) wall surface (finished wall in my as-is dwg example). Then I could just set the wall length in the dbx to the displayed temp dim.

Even better would be if Chief would take the final step and move stub end-walls with dimensions directly. Why at this point are they faarting around with such a simple solution??.
Regards,
Brad Boltz

[ebdesign]

Bradley,
Why do you keep making apologies to me? I just offered a "work-around" that works better (IMO) than the CAD line.
The real issue here is 2D display of wall intersections. Obviously it's not as simple as you think it is, or it would have been done by now. This has been repeatedly requested for a long time. One of these days.........ArchiCAD handles this nicely.
This situation only applies to exterior walls that don't have the framing layer as the main layer. temporary dimensions & the wall length in the dbx work fine for typical interior walls & most other exterior wall types.
I would need to see your wall type to see why you have the main layer set to that outside layer. You can have one layer as your main layer, & set the outside layer as "dimension to" in your wall def & probably clear up some of the other display issues too. You need to have a clear understanding of how walls "resize about", but ........
Temporary dimension defaults can be set to wall surfaces, etc. w/ your walls set up as in your image, the wall lengths in the wall bdx aren't very useful.
Jim

[builderlfd]

What I have done in that situation is draw a 4 foot wall out into the middle of the room and then use the point-to-point move tool. (I'm not sure if that qualifies as a work-around or not)

[Bradley Boltz]

Either, I'm suffering from dymensia(for cad, dimensia?) and for sure lack of spell-check- but I just drew a stub wall, dimensioned to it's end and moved it nicely by selecting and changing the dimension.

I don't recall being able to adjust a stub wall lenth using "move with dimension". Am I lost here? If this is the new behavior then everything discussed in this thread is now moot regarding X2 12.4.0.23 .

Sorry Jim, but I'm no longer sorry!!

Regards,

Brad "Sorry Arse" Boltz

[Bradley Boltz]

In the course of discussing this thread, I came across this inconsistancy in dimensioning the lengths of stub walls.

When changing a stub walls length using 'move with dimension', the walls behave differently in the horizontal or X direction from their behavior and end result when in the vertical or Y direction. See attached plan example.

Can anyone else verify this as a glitch? I adjusted the lengths of both walls using a manual dimension line without using perpendicular cad lines or perpendicular invisible walls.

If verifiable by others, this should be reported to Chief as a bug.

Regards,

Brad Boltz (Jim can call me Bradley, it makes me feel younger!)

[Tboy]

Got it
Thanks