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Thread: Dimensioning in Elevations
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03-12-2009, 01:36 PM #46
Sarah:
I would also like to see an elevation tool that gives an auto-magic summary of the room dbx info so that for split-levels etc we can see if the various rooms are set properly.
To avoid being too cluttered this elevation should probably be back-clipped ???
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03-12-2009, 02:09 PM #47
Just to add to Allens, if it were handled in that way, I think the output should be Foot & inches. 8'-0" or 8'-6 1/2" etc. Not 96" or 102 1/2"
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03-12-2009, 03:53 PM #48Originally Posted by Ray C
Originally Posted by Ray C
Originally Posted by Ray CSarah Mitchell
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03-12-2009, 03:58 PM #49Originally Posted by Allen42acj
Sounds like an auto dimension elevation tool should be separate anyway. You may not want to get a bunch of dims when you auto detail everything.Sarah Mitchell
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03-12-2009, 04:00 PM #50Originally Posted by DougMSarah Mitchell
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03-12-2009, 04:55 PM #51
And please, the ability to add prefix/suffix text to dim string. As discussed in other posts. I'm going put up a fight for this... LOL.
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03-12-2009, 08:15 PM #52Registered User Promoted
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Sarah,
You are on the right track with the thought that horizontal dimensions are for plan view, and vertical dimensions are for elevation and cross section view.
Personally, I dimension my cross sections and elevations to the framing layer only. I’m not concerned about floor finishes, window or door casing and trim, or drywall on ceilings when dimensioning elevations and cross sections. The subfloor, header heights, window sill, ceiling and floor joist heights, and roof ridge are all critical. I think Allen’s picture in post # 30 shows it well. But others may prefer to dimension to the finish layer, so you could treat elevations and cross sections as you do in plan view, where the user can select the wall layer (or floor/ceiling layer) that is being dimensioned to by the defaults.
In plan view we have auto exterior dimension, with the ability to manually change those strings, or we can create a manual string based on our reach and default settings. I would be delighted to be able to do the exact same thing in elevation and cross section just using the same tools we currently have. But I have to admit, I love Ray’s idea in post # 45. It would be great if we could activate the dimension tool, and then wherever we clicked in the elevation view we would automatically get an extension to the side for setting a dimension string. And that extension would have a marker that we pre-set in defaults.
Also, in this part of the country, building heights are measured from the finish grade of the terrain to the highest point of the roof. Not sure if that is what Ray was getting to about the terrain at the foundation, but that is one other dimension string that we have to show that is outside of the actual building structure.
Hope this helps, and good luck.Len Dalton
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03-12-2009, 08:32 PM #53
Also, in this part of the country, building heights are measured from the finish grade of the terrain to the highest point of the roof
In Fairfax Va they have a different method
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpwes/p.../lti/06_13.htm
I have seen other methods, I will post some links when I find them
LewLast edited by lbuttery; 03-12-2009 at 09:16 PM.
Lew Buttery
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03-13-2009, 01:32 AM #54
Qutoe from Len Dalton: "Also, in this part of the country, building heights are measured from the finish grade of the terrain to the highest point of the roof. Not sure if that is what Ray was getting to about the terrain at the foundation, but that is one other dimension string that we have to show that is outside of the actual building structure."
Same here, we usually have to dimension from grade up or a bench mark set down by engineers. So the height datum is always different. which can be handled in auto dim. mode by either selecting 0,0 or typing in a negitive number from F.F. ....Doug Michel
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03-13-2009, 02:27 AM #55
"Auto Elevation Dimension Defaults"
We could set up what gets dimensioned to.
I just don't want to see it get to complicated or have to spend more time deleting things than it would take dong it manually...........
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03-13-2009, 09:22 AM #56Originally Posted by Allen42acj
[ ] Include Terrain
[x] Include Roof Ridges
( ) Floor/Ceiling, Finshed
(*) Floor/Ceiling, Framed
[ ] Generate Callouts
It's not too many options. Maybe you don't want your floor and ceiling dimensioned. Maybe all you need is a dimension from ridge to terrain. If that's the case, though, drawing the dimension manually is the way to do it.Sarah Mitchell
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03-13-2009, 09:23 AM #57Originally Posted by DougMSarah Mitchell
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03-13-2009, 12:51 PM #58Grumpy Old User
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Originally Posted by spark
One checkbox I would like to see is in plan to have the ability to shut off dimensioning nterior partitions on the exterior dimension string. Many of us do not dimension interior walls on exterior strings. I have to gothru and delete the interior walls which is time consuming.
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03-13-2009, 01:07 PM #59
I have to gothru and delete the interior walls which is time consuming
Ron:
I agree
Would turning off that layer help as a workaround ???
Or setting them to "invisible" ???
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03-13-2009, 01:19 PM #60Grumpy Old User
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Originally Posted by lbuttery
Lew:
It did work, I changed the layer to Walls-interior and then turned the layer off, then did Auto dimenrsion. I wish this was more automatic.
Ron
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