Dimensioning in Elevations

[spark]

Hi

This may or may not be relevant to your enquiry but I’ll through it out there anyway.
After generating an exterior elevation it would be most helpful to be able to show only the terrain lines that come in contact with the foundation (model?)

Relevant, no. But since you brought it up... I am not familar with what you're talking about.

Then be able to place “special use” markers on objects that will auto display elevations with regard to the first floor elv. 0.00’

Elevations as in height? Or the elevation tool?

I send just about all elevations and cross sections to cad detail so for me it would be important that all the above mentioned transfer there as well as the model view. I realize the loss of the link between the view and the model but the above would still be a great time saver.

And while your at it,,, when the model is sent to cad detail have all the elements contain in that view to remain on their assigned layers,,, not just the two layers we have now.

I'll put this in the database.

And another thought,,, wall sections,,, have these proposed “smart elv. Markers” work for top of all walls,,, framing members,, foundation walls,,, footings,,, top and mid points of pony walls,,, retaining walls,,, joist,,, headers,,, decks,,, base line for sure,,,,

I am also not sure what you're stating here...

you asked! ,,,Ray

You're pictures are a bit small and hard to read. I can make out some floor/ceiling stuff, maybe roof ridge?

Thanks for the feedback.

[Ray C]

Relevant, no. But since you brought it up... I am not familar with what you're talking about. .

Having the elevation camera produce only the terrain lines at the foundation,,,, red lines only in the next jpeg



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Elevations as in height? Or the elevation tool?
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Your confused!! LOL

hope this helps

Thanks for the feedback.

are you sure! LOL

Ray

[lbuttery]

Sarah:

I would also like to see an elevation tool that gives an auto-magic summary of the room dbx info so that for split-levels etc we can see if the various rooms are set properly.


To avoid being too cluttered this elevation should probably be back-clipped ???


Lew

[spark]

Having the elevation camera produce only the terrain lines at the foundation,,,, red lines only in the next jpeg



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Gotchya. I'll pass it on to the dev team.

Your confused!! LOL

hope this helps

Confused or cautious. Elevation is a bit overloaded when it comes to elevations. I've heard a lot lately about wanting to link callouts with elevations, as in the camera, versus callouts that display elevation, as in height. Just want to make sure I'm on the same page.

are you sure! LOL

Very much so. Otherwise, I wouldn't get clarification.

[sherpa_jones]

After generating an exterior elevation it would be most helpful to be able to show only the terrain lines that come in contact with the foundation (model?)

I second that motion. In fact, I third that motion!

I would like to be able to use the interior dimension tool in a cross section view to dimension the floor to ceiling heights, just as I would in a plan view between walls.

[spark]

Sarah,
Anything that is user "defineable" in the z-axis in Chief should be "dimensionable" in elevations/sections. Chief has the info, ..........
Is that too general?

Jim

We could dimension every line you see in an elevation, right down to the brick pattern... Ideally, you would be able to dimension anything. So, we could add dimensioning for heights of plants, electrical, casing around windows, railings, etc, but it's quite a long list and if there's anything you're required to show (floor/ceiling heights, for instance) it's probably best we tackle those first so you're not drawing CAD lines long into X?.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Cismon]

This is how I generally used to dimension elevations

[lbuttery]

Anything that is user "defineable" in the z-axis in Chief should be "dimensionable" in elevations/sections. Chief has the info, ..........



Sarah:

I agree with Jim


There should be a tool to create an auto-magical elevation with the "standard" dims and it should be editable so that we can add anything else that is needed.


If there is more than one "standard" then give us a dbx with settings or a selection of Elevation style A or B or C ...


Lew

[spark]

There should be a tool to create an auto-magical elevation with the "standard" dims and it should be editable so that we can add anything else that is needed.

What do you define as "standard" dims?

[spark]

This is how I generally used to dimension elevations

Thank you! Very helpful.

[Allen42acj]

Hi Sarah
Her is a picture of what I add to cross sections to the left.
The point markers are where I would like to see automatic elevation dimensions.
With the math done for us..
It was done as a cad on the first floor and i sent the plan into support addressed to you.
"Auto elevation Dimensions for Sarah"
Does the plan give me more extra points?

I didn't check my math to see if it was right..

[dhowardaia]

Lew's suggestion for "Std" dimensions on ext. elevs is a good one. Specifically, top of slab, top of subfloor, top of plate, headers from relevant subfloor, ridge.

I dimension my sections like Allen. Stair headroom dimensions are measured vertically from a line connecting the top of the stair nosing (see attached)

Dorothy

[spark]

Hi Sarah
Her is a picture of what I add to cross sections to the left.
The point markers are where I would like to see automatic elevation dimensions.
With the math done for us..
It was done as a cad on the first floor and i sent the plan into support addressed to you.
"Auto elevation Dimensions for Sarah"
Does the plan give me more extra points?

I didn't check my math to see if it was right..

I got the plan. Thank you! I suppose plans will get extra extra bonus points.

So, if there was an automatic elevation button that automatically produce dimensions for your elevations, would it also produce the callouts shown in the picture? Or would callouts be produce when you click "Auto Detail"? Should "Auto Detail" also include dimensions? If you have a wall elevation, are you interested in different details?

I know NKBA requires specific dimensions on cabinets in elevations: heights including toe and backsplash, horizontal spacing, and centerlines to fixtures, appliances, and windows---in case you couldn't tell, we recently released a new K&B product. Cabinets are dimensioned in an elevation and your main structure is dimenisoned in the plan. So an automatic elevation dimensioning tool would automatically produce dimensions for those objects with specific measurements on specific lines (like we do Auto Exterior Elevations). But the result wouldn't be the same for someone producing construction docs for a whole house.

Someone told me one time that you dimension all your horizontals in plan view and all your verticals in elevations. Makes sense. But what verticals are always required? Your picture and plan are helpful (as are pictures and plans from others). Input from other users helps, too, because everyone does it a little bit differently... sometimes

[ebdesign]

Sarah,
Brick coursing (other than top/bot) & plants is taking it to the extreme, but..........
Roofs

• top of fascia

• baseline

• ridge

Rooms/ Walls

• sub-floor hgt

• finish floor hgt

• ceiling (plate) hgt

• lowered ceiling

• top & bot doors/windows/cabinets

• casing, base & moldings

• electrical

Exterior

• grade at foundation wall

(How's that, Ray?)

Some of this is already doable.
Jim

[Ray C]

(How's that, Ray?)

Some of this is already doable.
Jim

Great Jim

If you have any little gold stick on paper stars kicking around you may stick it on your forehead for the rest of the day.

over and out, Ray