Dimensioning in Elevations

[dhowardaia]

Lew's suggestion for "Std" dimensions on ext. elevs is a good one. Specifically, top of slab, top of subfloor, top of plate, headers from relevant subfloor, ridge.

I dimension my sections like Allen. Stair headroom dimensions are measured vertically from a line connecting the top of the stair nosing (see attached)

Dorothy

[ebdesign]

Sarah,
Brick coursing (other than top/bot) & plants is taking it to the extreme, but..........
Roofs

• top of fascia

• baseline

• ridge

Rooms/ Walls

• sub-floor hgt

• finish floor hgt

• ceiling (plate) hgt

• lowered ceiling

• top & bot doors/windows/cabinets

• casing, base & moldings

• electrical

Exterior

• grade at foundation wall

(How's that, Ray?)

Some of this is already doable.
Jim

[Ray C]

(How's that, Ray?)

Some of this is already doable.
Jim

Great Jim

If you have any little gold stick on paper stars kicking around you may stick it on your forehead for the rest of the day.

over and out, Ray

[spark]

Depends on the Job Sarah, and the information any particular job may require. As I stated in another post , any horizontal line should be dimensionalbe, including window & door parts, stairs, landings. Etc.etc.
I may need to dimension what someone else doesn't and visa-versa.
This new tool may include a filtering option.

Doug

We will definitely make filtering options available as more objects become dimensionable in 3D views.

With regards to window & door parts, what parts in particular do you need to dimension? All parts (right down to the width of the lites in the glass panels)? Or is it a more general width/height to casing, width/height to rough opening sort of deal?

[spark]

If I can see a line I should be able to dimension to it.

That is the inevitable goal. It's a long road to get there, unfortunately. The primary goal of gathering more information is to figure out what is highest on the priority list for dimensioning. Floor and ceiling heights versus pattern lines on your brick wall. What must you provide dimensions for in order to get permits? To build the structure?

[spark]

Posts and beams.

Anything in particular? In a particular view? What are you measuring? Length & width? Or spacing center to center? All of the above?

[spark]

I made this as a view to CAD and then drew dimensions and labels.
It would be nice when sitting with a client and they ask: "How tall/wide is that?" and I'd take a cross section and drag a ruler, no different than if we were standing in a kitchen or bath and they asked the same question, there.

Does your ruler tool generate a permanent dimension? Or does it simply provide feedback and then disappear?

Thanks for providing feedback!

[spark]

Vertical Dimensions.
Floor (0',0''), Header heights, 2nd floor height, Top foundation wall, footing, etc, ridges, etc

When you measure the floor is it measure subfloor to subfloor? Also, with regards to roofs, is it ridges only or would you like to pick up those locations cut by the camera as well? What about ceiling heights? Anything in particular that you measure there?

[spark]

What do you define as "standard" dims?



Sarah:


The types of dims that are being posted via pics in this thread


At a minimum, the floor heights and eve heights and ridge heights
roof pitches


Lew

Thanks, Lew. That's what I though but I wasn't sure. Standards in one area my be suggestions in another...

[spark]

Hi Sarah
Her is a picture of what I add to cross sections to the left.
The point markers are where I would like to see automatic elevation dimensions.
With the math done for us..
It was done as a cad on the first floor and i sent the plan into support addressed to you.
"Auto elevation Dimensions for Sarah"
Does the plan give me more extra points?

I didn't check my math to see if it was right..

I got the plan. Thank you! I suppose plans will get extra extra bonus points.

So, if there was an automatic elevation button that automatically produce dimensions for your elevations, would it also produce the callouts shown in the picture? Or would callouts be produce when you click "Auto Detail"? Should "Auto Detail" also include dimensions? If you have a wall elevation, are you interested in different details?

I know NKBA requires specific dimensions on cabinets in elevations: heights including toe and backsplash, horizontal spacing, and centerlines to fixtures, appliances, and windows---in case you couldn't tell, we recently released a new K&B product. Cabinets are dimensioned in an elevation and your main structure is dimenisoned in the plan. So an automatic elevation dimensioning tool would automatically produce dimensions for those objects with specific measurements on specific lines (like we do Auto Exterior Elevations). But the result wouldn't be the same for someone producing construction docs for a whole house.

Someone told me one time that you dimension all your horizontals in plan view and all your verticals in elevations. Makes sense. But what verticals are always required? Your picture and plan are helpful (as are pictures and plans from others). Input from other users helps, too, because everyone does it a little bit differently... sometimes

[spark]

Sarah,
Brick coursing (other than top/bot) & plants is taking it to the extreme, but..........
Roofs

• top of fascia

• baseline

• ridge

Rooms/ Walls

• sub-floor hgt

• finish floor hgt

• ceiling (plate) hgt

• lowered ceiling

• top & bot doors/windows/cabinets

• casing, base & moldings

• electrical

Exterior

• grade at foundation wall

(How's that, Ray?)

Some of this is already doable.
Jim

Thanks for the feedback. The list is very helpful. Knowing what you use and need are equally important. Not planning on removing any functionality. But, in a purely hypothetical universe, if nobody dimensioned windows in elevations, putting our efforts into fixing all manner of bugs associated with them doesn't make much sense.

[Allen42acj]

I think point markers with macros might be the way to go..
There are just so many thing that can and will get dimensioned to..

[Ron Ravenscroft]

Vertical Dimensions.
Floor (0',0''), Header heights, 2nd floor height, Top foundation wall, footing, etc, ridges, etc

Yes, a way to do this without Chief grabing everything on the vertical string.

[jmycue]

Dear Ms. Spark,

Thanks so much for even asking! X2 Rocks!!! The entire product just gets better and better with each release. What a daunting task to even try to give people the tools they need in such a diverse field. Dynamic dimensioning toggle would be great to change dimension defaults for cabinet elevations and then back again for floor plan work. Ideal dimension procedure might be to have preset "basic" dims as others have described then have a check box selection for additional dim. values --like you have provided for door and window schedules. Thanks again.

[Ray C]

Relevant, no. But since you brought it up... I am not familar with what you're talking about. .

Having the elevation camera produce only the terrain lines at the foundation,,,, red lines only in the next jpeg



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Elevations as in height? Or the elevation tool?
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Your confused!! LOL

hope this helps

Thanks for the feedback.

are you sure! LOL

Ray