# of Top plates?

[Raymond Rood]

Allen interesting concept could you post a picture of that detail to see. Thanks

[Allen42acj]

Ray
See if this helps..
It was easier than I thought it might be..
Missing the extra 3/4 on the wall..

[tompapa]

Interesting...I've never framed that way before. I don't think I've seen it done either. Must be an east coast thing.

[sherpa_jones]

I'll bet that strapping makes your floor system a lot stronger.

[Raymond Rood]

Allen if I understand you correctly when you talk about strapping you are refurring to the 1x stripps running horizontal to the ceiling joist

[Allen42acj]

Yes (1" x 3")
Some people call it furring.
Nailing guns made putting it up so much easier..
Try nailing up when you first start working as a framer..
Miss the nail half the time and your arm gets tired very fast.

How does the sheet rock get attached to the ceiling without strapping next to a wall when the wall is parallel with the joist?
You must have to block over those walls..

[dshall]

Out here we use a 1x (not a 2X) for the second top plate of non bearing walls. This way we have a top plate lap over the splices but we still have the clearance under a bearing joist or truss so the wall will have no load on it.

[frwillia]

Allen,

What is the purpose of the 1x straps?

Thanks
Fitch

[Allen42acj]

Fitch
It would just be a guess for me to answer..
Think to tie every thing together better,keeps the joist from twisting.
Less cracks in the ceiling.
Gives a place to run wires and 3/4" pipe..
Hangers don't leave a bump in the sheet rock..
Maybe with engineered lumber it's not as important..
This is a typical New England way..

[Raymond Rood]

Allen the way we always do it is that the top plate overlaps all of the other walls where the walls are horizontal we would put a 2 x _ plate on top if that which would come even with the bottom of the ceiling joists to catch Sheetrock or put blocking along wall at 16" o.c. to catch the Sheetrock then on top of the ceiling joists we put a strong-back down the center of the wall between the outside wall and center partition. I guess no way is wrong just different methods of doing things and as long as the walls are all tied together.

[Ray C]

Fitch

This is a typical New England way..

All the above,,,,
And when the hurricanes come through the houses don’t come apart and blow away!

Also eliminates the need for solid blocking the first three bays in the ceiling diaphragm. IRC2003 MA version.

LOL,,, an earlier post mentioned nailing off the strapping by hand,,,,, it’s been a lot of years but I still remember the pain

Ray

[Raymond Rood]

Ray you must be like me pre air nailers hands and shoulders still hurt

[Ray C]

Ray you must be like me pre air nailers hands and shoulders still hurt

Yes Ray,,,
first couple of years,,,, waaaaaaay back when

have a good day

[sherpa_jones]

Allen, I am curious as to how you hang your drywall after . . . Do you hang your ceiling board first and then you wall board uner it, or the other way around. Because if I do my math correctly, 97 1/8" minus 3/4" for strapping leaves 96 3/8" subfloor to strapping, and if you drywall your ceiling first, like most people, this leaves 95 7/8" or 95 3/4" height, depending on whether you use 1/2" or 5/8" board on the ceiling. This means your bottom run of drywall would need to be shaved by 1/8" to 1/4" to fit. Am I missing something here?

[Allen42acj]

Rod
I believe they do the ceiling first.
I am usually gone by that time..