Cannot un-bury the joint

[Gene Davis]

In an inside ELL of my main floor I have a screened porch, its walls are railing walls, post to beam, halfpost ends.

I have tried everything I can think of, but cannot get one of the joints to NOT bury itself into the wall, halfpost and all. It is frustrating.

I can pull the railing wall end away from the corner in plan view, but I have to get it a few inches away to keep from snapping to join the corner. The walls need to be joined in order to make the deck room.

The other end of the deck wall comes into a 135 corner, not a 90, and is not a problem.

What is the fix here?

[sutcac]

It looks as though the floor level for the deck "room" is significantly lower than the floor level of the room adjacent to the side of the deck where your buried half-post is? That might have something to do with it.

Just put the missing post in manually.

[Ray C]

Try aligning the main layers on the exterior at that intersection,,, real world?

HTH Ray

[Gene Davis]

I have tried moving the wall out and in from the ELL joint corner, and if moving it IN, so the main layers align I get the post to un-bury itself.

Only when aligned. Not one tiny fraction outboard. Now, the joint unburies itself, and after I edited the corner to move the siding wall joint back out a little, I get the siding to wrap and not cut. See attached.

Here is my next problem. I cannot get the deck platform from burying itself in the foundation wall. The platform frame will be hung via a ledger bolted to the ICF foundation wall.

What do I do to un-bury the deck frame?

The adjacent edge of the deck platform does not bury itself into the adjacent foundation wall.

Why is Chief so unpredictable here?

[spencerdesign]

It may not possible to diagnose your issue without posting the plan.

[sutcac]

I don't think it's a matter so much of unpredictability, more a matter of understanding how Chief models things. Not saying my understanding is superior, only that I think your situation is likely predictable.

Personally, I can't see why anyone would even want a half post against a wall like that anyway. In every similar situation I have ever encountered, that post would be fully buried in the wall.

As far as the floor platform, the discrepancy could be easily altered in the views that matter like the elevations, sections, and floor framing plans.

But it would help I think to post the plan.

[Gene Davis]

Here is the V10 file.

There is another issue I am having that has me stumped.

I have not done stacked stairs before. I got a set of stairs up from the basement to the main floor, which has the staircase area called "open below" in plan.

The staircase plan for the second is also specified as "open below."

I have the stairs built, but everytime I try to place them in the staircase, they fall onto the stairs below, instead of staying at the correct elevation.

I have watched and re-watched all the training vids I have re stairs, and cannot find the way. What's up?

[sutcac]

Try changing your railing wall type from the Default to a 4" Siding or something where the outer layers match that of the wall they abut. You may like how this works out better.

As I suspected, the deck is 17-1/2" lower than the adjacent floor, likely explaining to some extent how it is being modeled and viewed in 3D and how the half post is working there. Don't have a auto-generate solution for you there, but you can modify the framing manually so that the section/detail etc. will show properly.

For your stairs, draw them in place, don't draw them in another room and then try and move them into place.