Flared window openings, thick walls, like in a church

[Gene Davis]

We have done windows in foundation walls, the details of construction thus:

Windows purchased without any extension jambs or with smallest ext-jbs possible. R.O. in thick wall (we do this in ICF and solid concrete) is oversized at sides, top, and sometimes bottom. R.O. gap is filled with wood framing parts so that gyprock finish on inside can show 45 degree flares to opening wherever R.O. has been made bigger. See the pic, attached.

I can figure a way to paste details into layout for this using CAD or Sketchup, but how would one do it in Chief for an inside-the-room render?

[ARCHIJEF2000]

This thread should help.
http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....ghlight=sorted

[Gene Davis]

Thanks, but that is the reverse of what I am after.

This issue is blocked by the fact that Chief mounts an exterior window or door at either "zero," meaning against outside face of wall, or moves it into the wall (from exterior toward interior) by whatever "recessed" dimension is specified, within limits.

But, hey, while I am writing this, I am thinking, and I am in V.10, what might happen if I make a wall in reverse, meaning just flip layers? Will the window recess out?

Because if it does, I can be in business!

[louis]

No that won't work.

However there is a setting for where your window sits. There is an inset setting or something like that. I would have to look to know for sure.

[Allen Brown]

Can you redefine your walls, place the main layer as a thin layer near the outside, and then check "recess to main layer"?

[Larry Kumpost]

I did not have a chance to try this, for exactly what you want, but I would do something like what is shown in the images below.

The problem is in how you deal with the wider wall both above and below the window. You could use polyline solids for both fills or try a pony wall for the opening with the thin wall above and thick wall below, with alignment adjusted as required, then just use a polyline solid above.

May take a little trial and error to get things just right.

[billemery]

This deals with the area above and below the window.

This is a window symbol that stretches nicely. It's made for a 3D molding polyline and a window sash converted into a millwork item.

You can use a separate pline molding at the head and sill if they are different.

The problem with this window is that it cannot be accurately represented in plan and requires a cad patch to make it look right.

[ARCHIJEF2000]

The method I devised was made in version nine and a half, I cant seem to get it to work in X1, anyone else have this experience.

[sutcac]

I made the attached custom window with your method Jeff in X1 for the project below and it seemed to work fine. I used a two layer wall with the main layer on the inside and the outer layer the same depth as the molding.

But the molding was placed on the outside on this window. What if you just placed the same molding on the inside? Made a "room" outside to fool the window?

[Gene Davis]

I tried something that will do the trick for what I want to do. It involves tricking Chief into reversing a window, doing it in a wall that is flipped, and the bevel casing thing. Maybe there is an easier way.

Remember that what I wanted was a way to get an interior vector camera view, showing my "church" window with its flared drywall returns. Using V 10.

Since I don't care if the plan view shows this accurately, or a wall section either, since all I will do is clip the view for pasting onto a layout page, what I got was OK.

The triangular casing is used in the attached pic. Sorry about the sloppiness, I made my triangle a 6x6 instead of an 8x8, but you can get the idea.

[louis]

http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....ghlight=window