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  1. #16
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    another thing if you decide to use my step, make sure that you put the 1" rectangle on your floor plan into the cabinet that you want a false panel on. the face of the rectangle should be behind and flush to the face of the cabinet your putting it on. this puts the cabinet doors in the same line and hides the face frame.
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    Frank,
    Here is an upper cabinet in version 10 that has the cabinet body defined as "no material" as described above. Notice that the cabinet is selected but only the door is visible. From this view the door can be exported, and then brougt in as a millwork symbol.

    My post #6 is an alternate method to isolate the cabinet door. It's a bit more involved that the other method. I would suggest assigning "no material" to the cabinet as I think it is the more simple solution.

    EDIT: I just noticed that in version 10 when I tried to bring the door back in as a sympbol the cabinet was still visible. I think that the method in my post #6 of this thread may be the only way to isolate the door.
    I'll expirement a little more with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECSURFER84
    hey pat, I dont know what that might be happening from. I walked thru my steps and didnt have a problem changing the door face or drawer face to a different one from the library.
    Ric, so you dropped a cabinet in a plan, changed the depth to 1", changed the material of the cabinet to "Opening" no material and created a cabinet symbol out of that, right?

    I tried both exporting to 3Ds and making a symbol using the create symbol wizard as well as the short cut "convert to symbol" ... and either way, I can't change the front.

    Maybe someone else might have run across this....thanks for trying it !

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    no there is no reason to change the material to no material..... just leave it the same material as the cab itself. once you place it into the frame of the existing cab already in plan, you wont even see it. that goes for glass panels as well.
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    you dont need to make symbols for this. the steps are as fast as a squirrel chasing an acorn.
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    It seemed so right, until . . .

    OK, took the easy route. Set a basecab on the floor, then set a wallcab nearby.

    Opened wallcab dbx for spec, set at 4" off floor, height of 30.5", width left at the 24 default. Set depth at 1/16". Went to fronts and specified overlays so door is out at cab box size, no perimeter reveals at all. So far so good.

    Rotate wallcab, move it over so it just kisses the side of the base cab. Vector camera view.

    OK, sez me. Now let's see if we can change the door type, materials, etc., on the paste-on side. No problemo.

    Until!

    We make our frameless basecabs with 23-3/4 depth boxes, and depending on door style for the fronts, want our finished ends to project forward of cab front by 5/16" to 5/8". That means that a finished end width always is over 24 inches, and when I exceed the 24 width, Chief wants to give me two doors!

    How is this overridden?
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    Gene,

    Just so you know you can have a 36" cabinet with a single door if you want.

    Just change it to a single door.

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    As always, Louis, thank you.

    Something earlier in this thread sent me looking into cabinet specification, and it was the business about removing the shelves, and offsetting the door from the cab.

    Tell me, if you will, how this is done in V 10.

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    You can also make the "door" a panel, making the drawer style match the desired door style. It doesn't change configuration then, unless you deliberately make it a double or triple face.

    Katy

 

 

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