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    Lighting: pendants hung from high ceilings

    Pendant lights hung from vaulted or tall ceilings create a need for lighting symbols that have some sort of spec dialog associated with them, to be able to set the fixture height off floor, when the long rod with its canopy (the part of the fixture at the rod or chain top that decoratively covers the hanger fixing and wiring) runs up to the ceiling.

    Stretching a fixture to, say, 6 feet height, when it starts out as being half that, distorts the whole vertical scale. That is not acceptable, because we only want to stretch the rod or chain.

    Is this available?

    Is it a feature of X1? I work right now in V 10.08.a.

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    Create a new symbol in SU.
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    There have been a few stretchable fixtures posted on this forum.

    The best way is to look at the ones that are set up to stretch already.
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    By the way there are some in 10 already set up to stretch.

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    Gene,

    Just open the symbol (looks like a pencil and a top) of the one you want to use and adjust the stretch plane.

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    check out this scene

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    From left to right.
    1st lamp: strait out of the library

    2nd lamp: this has been "pulled down", it has a stretch plane at right angles to the cable, and therefor the cable is stretched while the lamp retains the same proportions.

    3rd Lamp,same as the second one , but now the stretch plane has been removed, you can see that the elongation occurs over the whole of the object.

    4th lamp, strait out of the library this model contains no stretch plane, if we were to stretch it down wards, to whole thing would stretch proportionately,

    5 th lamp, This is where a stretch zone comes in handy two stretch planes are coupled to produce a stretch zone, see the symbol dialog box, you will need to experiment to determine the best position of the two planes.

    Of course you end up stretching the chain, where really you need to add extra links, but there isn't really any( easy) way to fix this
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    I am looking for this very feature in X5 and don't see how it is done. Is there a tutorial somewhere?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gene Davis View Post
    Pendant lights hung from vaulted or tall ceilings create a need for lighting symbols that have some sort of spec dialog associated with them, to be able to set the fixture height off floor, when the long rod with its canopy (the part of the fixture at the rod or chain top that decoratively covers the hanger fixing and wiring) runs up to the ceiling.

    Stretching a fixture to, say, 6 feet height, when it starts out as being half that, distorts the whole vertical scale. That is not acceptable, because we only want to stretch the rod or chain.

    Is this available?

    Is it a feature of X1? I work right now in V 10.08.a.
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    Select the light in a camera view. Make it longer. If it stretches the whole thing instead of just the chain, then it means the light does not have a stretch plane setup. You can create a stretch plane by using the "open symbol" dialog instead of the normal "open" dialog.
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    KT,

    tried eveything in the symbol selection criteria and nothing works except the ceiling cover stretches yielding an unrealistic effect. Any samples of how this is done?
    thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachcomer View Post
    KT,

    tried eveything in the symbol selection criteria and nothing works except the ceiling cover stretches yielding an unrealistic effect. Any samples of how this is done?
    thx
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    Thanks Scott! You're the man! The video was precisely what I needed.
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