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  1. #1
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    Will Chief X1 tell me how much brick I need?

    I drew a house in chief with exterior brick on the outside. Will this program tell me how much brick I wll need? If so, how do you get the material take off for brick or anything else?

    Thank you
    Gayle
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  2. #2
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    "Tools>Materials List>Calculate From All Floors". Brick and shingles are two things that it is pretty accurate on.
    Allen Brown
    Indy Blueprints
    Residential & Commercial Designs & Drafting Service
    V8-X4, Specializing in Plan Completion, Problem solving, & Chief Architect Training.

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  3. #3
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    I agree, the materials list can be pretty good.

    I have a tendency to leave some details of my plans, therefore, I cause Chief to be inaccurate for material take-offs. If I don't put in somewhere, Chief cannot fix what I don't tell it!
    Take Care

    Jim

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    Keep away from the drywall totals, because I believe it places drywall on attic walls.
    Allen Brown
    Indy Blueprints
    Residential & Commercial Designs & Drafting Service
    V8-X4, Specializing in Plan Completion, Problem solving, & Chief Architect Training.

    Free Chief Architect Training Videos:
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    Need help on a plan? Or 1 on 1 instruction? Email or call.

    www.UBuildItIndy.com

  5. #5
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    Keep away from the drywall totals, because I believe it places drywall on attic walls


    Hummmm, that's not good...


    Lew
    Lew Buttery
    Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"

    Lockport, NY
    716-434-5051
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    CHIEF X5 (started with v9.5)

  6. #6
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    Chief does not automatically create a attic wall that removes drywall. First, create a wall type for what you want as the attic wall. Then just select the attic wall and change it.

    I don't need to use the material list very much but, as far as I know, Chief will not add things to the list that are not shown in the model.
    Larry

    Lawrence C. Kumpost, Architect

    No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be
    stationery.

  7. #7
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    Larry:

    It would be nicer if Chief would create the attic wall without the drywall for us


    Lew
    Lew Buttery
    Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"

    Lockport, NY
    716-434-5051
    www.castlegoldendesign.com
    lbuttery at castlegoldendesign.com

    CHIEF X5 (started with v9.5)

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbuttery
    Larry:

    It would be nicer if Chief would create the attic wall without the drywall for us

    Lew
    But then if you want t vaulted ceiling you would need to add the drywall.
    Larry

    Lawrence C. Kumpost, Architect

    No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be
    stationery.

  9. #9
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    Larry:

    Still learning here...

    Why would vaulted ceilings use attic walls ???

    I thought attic walls were used by chief for the auto-roof gen ???

    Lew
    Lew Buttery
    Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"

    Lockport, NY
    716-434-5051
    www.castlegoldendesign.com
    lbuttery at castlegoldendesign.com

    CHIEF X5 (started with v9.5)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbuttery
    Larry:

    Still learning here...

    Why would vaulted ceilings use attic walls ???

    I thought attic walls were used by chief for the auto-roof gen ???

    Lew
    When you add the roof, Chief generates the attic wall automatically....unless you turn the automatic generation of attic walls off. Depending on how you want to frame the wall, you can make a attic wall invisible and adjust the top of the lower wall in a section/elevation view. Making adjustments for using a gable-end truss can be a bit tricky but can be done... I think. Haven't tired that one lately either but was able to do it in the past.

    The basic point I was making is that the material list can only show what you have in the 3D model. If that is not correct the material list will not be correct.
    Larry

    Lawrence C. Kumpost, Architect

    No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be
    stationery.

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    The basic point I was making is that the material list can only show what you have in the 3D model. If that is not correct the material list will not be correct.

    Larry:

    Yep, this is one reason why we don't use material lists from Chief. So far our clients haven't asked for one but if they did I would use Cad Estimator to create one.

    Lew
    Lew Buttery
    Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"

    Lockport, NY
    716-434-5051
    www.castlegoldendesign.com
    lbuttery at castlegoldendesign.com

    CHIEF X5 (started with v9.5)

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    Or you could do the model correct..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

    Drafter for:
    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

    Chief Architect X4






  13. #13
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    Or you could do the model correct..

    Only if the client is willing to pay for it

    For CAD Estimator all that is needed is a correct floor plan and correct elevations, no need to fuss with Chief and do workarounds to get everything "just so".


    Lew
    Lew Buttery
    Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"

    Lockport, NY
    716-434-5051
    www.castlegoldendesign.com
    lbuttery at castlegoldendesign.com

    CHIEF X5 (started with v9.5)

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    Lew
    I have seen the CAD Estimator video,I'll stick with Chief and my brain..
    Looked like more work to make all the boxes..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

    Drafter for:
    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

    Chief Architect X4






  15. #15
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    no need to fuss with Chief and do workarounds to get everything "just so".
    Sounds to me like you need to pick up a copy of AutoCAD LT if thats all you are going to use Chief for. And for the record, I rarely use a "workaround" to attain an accurate model. Chief does exactly what it is suppose to when I put the correct information into the program. I am willing to bet...real money...that in the time it takes for all the importing and exporting that goes on to get the information into CAD estimator, then all the fiddling with that program, I can set up my defaults and go, with the end product being an accurate model, with a materials list.

    My 2 cents....
    Joey R. Martin,aibd,cgp,cga,caps
    Martin Design & Planning
    Elwood, Indiana
    Cell. 765-860-3567
    eMail. joeymdp@gmail.com

 

 

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