Window Settings

[Jorge Araya]

Hello all,
I am being asked to model this house showing windows with actual thickness and sizes for aluminum windows, when I model the window "mostly fin windows" that nail to the framing outside TYP., chief leaves an empty space inside the room that should be wrapped around all sides with drywall, open showing framing, how do you get chief to wrap these openings with drywall so when I shoot my rendered views I see drywall in there...

Thank you!!!

[Allen42acj]

Suppress casings on the inside and make the frame depth 1"

[WHirsch]

For typical 2 x 6 framing, the window frame must be thick enough to make the interior face set 2 1/2" into the wall. I set frame depth to 4 1/2", inset at -2", suppress casings etc., and beef up the sash depth a bit to make the frame look a little less deep. The end result is a shallower drywall return than the true dimension would be, but it looks fairly realistic inside and out. I think the only other option would be to wrap the returns with thin solids.

[Jorge Araya]

Here is my window, my settings are 1/2" for sash, depth is 1", frame is 1/2" and frame depth is 1". insets are at 0"

[Jorge Araya]

Here is a cross section of the window

[dshall]

A quick comment about this.... I believe in V10 the drywall did a great job of wrapping around the inside jamb and it looked great, but in X1 I have had problems getting the drywall to look as good, there seems to be an additional line being generated and the 2X4 sill actually shows thru (even though framing has yet to be built.

inset at -2"[/

I adjust this number to -1.25" (3/8" ply & 7/8" stucco = 1.25")

I set frame depth to 4 1/2"

I have found that 2.75" is the least I would make this (otherwise another line shows up)

[WHirsch]

Thickness of the outer wall layers might make a difference when optimizing the frame depth and inset dimensions. I deliberately exaggerate the neg inset. I think the ext. render view looks better that way.

What I see in render views, with the default siding walls, is siding wrapping into the opening to about half the wall thickness. The min frame depth required to cover is 4.5", though other settings may have some effect on that.

[Jorge Araya]

Changed the window to be flush with the stucco, now my gap inside is larger, and the stucco and framing show through, no drywall wrapping the opening.

[Jorge Araya]

We have gone to the settings and changed them to show an even more accurate off the shelve window.
Still we can not get the opening to show drywall, at some point messing around with the casing we got something close, but we have no casing here, and it bleeds the framing layer, I don't want to change the framing layer color either. this window is an awning window as well

[Jorge Araya]

This is what we are trying to accomplish... I used a polyline and converted it to a 3d molding pline... not what you want to do if you have lots of windows and all sort of sizes!!!

[dshall]

hanged the window to be flush with the stucco, now my gap inside is larger, and the stucco and framing show through, no drywall wrapping the opening.

how wide is your frame? I used 2.75"....also try turning the framing layer off.... I know.... it does not work as it should..... CA.... any ideas?..... did it not work well in CA10? and if it did.... can it work well again?

[Jorge Araya]

Yup, got it! still my framing is 3 1/2 and 5 1/2 depending, however, the window opening wraps around correctly until we hit the stucco, but, setting the window frame larger actually covers that and it all looks good, just that the window is no longer what we wanted it to be, is just a bit wider now, but oh well, it will have to do, thanks for the help!!!

[Jorge Araya]

I would guess CA is limiting the window frame width to 2.75, regardless of how much thinner your windows are, even adding the layers for stucco and sheathing with 7/8" plus 1/2" you get 1 3/8" if your window frame is 2" thick, you will see stucco show through the inside window opening, wonder why it shows 2.75 wide, there must be another setting somewhere to eliminate the offending stucco strip showing through...

[Jorge Araya]

I must add to that, if you have a 5.5" wall then your window sash width is considerably larger to cover the stucco or whatever finish you have outside... thus making the windows more unreal than before...!!!

[Dan Park]

This displayed correctly in 10. I think we are modeling the cross section better in X1 but it's wrapping the outside wall layer to the center of the wall instead of the window.