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Thread: Roof Planes
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06-13-2008, 08:18 AM #1
Roof Planes
Hello all,
Does anyone know how to indicate "not to build framing" to a roof plane?
Here is my situation, I have created severa roof planes one on top of the other using the transform replicate tool and changing the baselines to properly "mimic" a roof framing system with a T&G deck over it, then 3.5 insulation, then 1/2 sheathing and 1/2 roof covering, this gives me real time cross sections!!!
Anyway, what if I need to build framing for the roof plane that is supposed to be the roof framing and not to the others!!!
Thanks!
JorgeJorge Araya
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06-13-2008, 08:36 AM #2
I think I would put those roofs plane on separate layers named after what they are for..
Then before you build the roof framing,have a blank plan open to copy and paste in place from,delete them,build framing and bring them back.
New layer names so you can have a layer set to do this...........
Allen Colburn Jr.
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06-13-2008, 08:42 AM #3
I already have them under separate layers, we need a radio button to tell Chief "Do Not Build Framing" or something similar, I think even if they are on a separate layer Chief will see them as roof planes and will build framing to them, but, yes, it seems like an option to save them somewhere else, it will probably be better just to redo the planes, it doesn't take long to replicate and set the parameters.
Just a thought!
Radio Button to choose to build or not to build framing!!!!Jorge Araya
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06-13-2008, 08:51 AM #4
You would have to delete them after putting in a new plan.
That's the only way I know of now..
It would be great to have a box to not frame them.Example=Additions and not framing the existing sections..
If you make the suggest I will vote yes...........
Allen Colburn Jr.
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06-13-2008, 09:01 AM #5
I believe that they will not frame if they are blocked.
The framing being blocked.Last edited by louis; 06-13-2008 at 09:30 AM.
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06-13-2008, 09:19 AM #6
You can also move those roof planes up or down a level from the ones you do want framed. Even if Chief frames them, it is then very easy to group select and delete that framing. I haven't tried the blocking trick, but it sounds cool.
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06-13-2008, 09:30 AM #7
Radio Button to choose to build or not to build framing!!!!
Hmmm, wouldn't it be "better" to have roof definitions with layers like we do for wall definitions ???
Same for floor definitions ???
LewLew Buttery
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06-13-2008, 10:08 AM #8
How do you block a roof plane?
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Allen Colburn Jr.
Pascoag RI 02859
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Chief Architect X4
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06-13-2008, 10:49 AM #9Hmmm, wouldn't it be "better" to have roof definitions with layers like we do for wall definitions ???
Same for floor definitions ???
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06-13-2008, 11:21 AM #10Rob Fisher
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Hmmm, wouldn't it be "better" to have roof definitions with layers like we do for wall definitions ???
1. Replicate roof planes
2. Display the new planes on the attic level
3. Generate roof framing
4. Marquee select roof framing in attic level and delete. (with roof and anything else like gable wall framing turned off or if you did this often you could make a layerset called "roof framing only")...oh and another way to display roof framing only would be to switch to your "all off" set and turn on roof framing.Rob Fisher
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06-13-2008, 02:52 PM #11This feature has been asked for by many
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06-13-2008, 03:21 PM #12
I certainly hope so, and while the plan lines can be just a polyline, making them solids using planes works great to get your cross sections, and best of all if you work with a designer and need to show how it looks in 3d then is most needed, I do mostly con docs, and have been modeling as much as I can to finish my drawing faster, with minimum cad work, I do all of my details using chief CAD tools and I can say I am pretty good at it.
It is helpful to be able to choose what to frame and what not to, this includes foundations, floors, walls, roofs, etc.
This will give you more control on making the most out of the program!Jorge Araya
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06-14-2008, 02:23 AM #13
Maybe if we could convert a roof plane to a solid?
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Allen Colburn Jr.
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06-15-2008, 07:29 PM #14Registered User Promoted
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Allen,
We can easily convert a roof plane (or group of roof planes) into a symbol, and bring it back into the drawing.
This seems like an easy way to deal with any roof plane we don't want to frame. This might be a good way to deal with entire sections of a building that we don't want to frame (as in the existing area of a remodel) as long as room definitions in the remodel area are maintained.Last edited by billemery; 06-15-2008 at 09:49 PM.
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06-16-2008, 01:59 AM #15
Hi Bill
I was thinking of clicking on it and have the "magic wand" tool come up..
Converting it to a symbol would take extra time with layers..........
Allen Colburn Jr.
Pascoag RI 02859
Residential Design Drafting/Framer
Drafter for:
http://www.artformhomeplans.com/
Chief Architect X4