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  1. #1
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    Jun 2002
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    Triple Arch Opening supported by 2 columns?

    Is there a straight forward way to construct a triple arched opening supported by two columns

    Ex: Three Arched doorways ganged together with the the two outer doorways interior jamb leg being a column.

    Hope I have made myself clear

    I am a very new user and think this program is awsum!

    Who has time to learn autocad, sure it will do more but who has the time to use it everyday to stay proficient.

  2. #2
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    Jan 2001
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    Daniel,

    Place the 3 doorways in your plan and set their size and position. You will end up with a small wall segment between each doorway. I do not know of a way to eliminate the wall segment. However, if your columns are large enough in diameter they will wrap around the wall segment to hide it. You can easily drag your columns into position by using Control Drag. You can also use the “Suppress Casing” check box on the Door dbx – Frame & Trim tab if you do not want any trim. . Hope this answers your question and welcome to Chief Talk.

    Regards…Bob

  3. #3
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    Jan 2001
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    Daniel,
    Here is another approach you can try if your columns are not large enough to wrap around the wall segments between the doors.

    Place 2 hinged doors in your plan. Using the door dbx change one door to be the proper size of your arch. You can then copy and paste this to create your other arches (assuming they are all the same size). Move the arched doors into the proper position. Keep the regular door off to one side. All of your doors should be hinged doors at this time. If you changed them to openings you will not be able to select them in the next step.

    Take a backclip cross section view of the wall with your doors. In the cross section view select each door and drag the bottom up to the height of your columns. Next you will need to select the regular door and drag or set it’s height to the height of your columns. Once you have your heights set control drag the regular door under the arched doors and stretch it to fill the space completely.

    At this point your wall should look pretty ugly. Now you will need to select each door and change it to a doorway. Once it is changed to a doorway you will not be able to select it in a cross section. The next step is to switch back to plan view, add your columns, and set their height. Now you can control drag your columns into the proper position.

    Your arches are now complete. However, when you take a camera view the thresholds of the arched doorways will show up. You can get rid of them by zooming in close and use the “Delete Surface” tool. Unfortunately they will return again the next time you take a camera view. Hope this helps by giving you an alternative.

    Regards…Bob

  4. #4
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    As important and common as arches are in a design perhaps chief 9.0 should have a way to allow us to custom create them with out any other manipulations.

  5. #5
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    you can eliminate the wall segment between the doors by double clicking on the WINDOW icon and resetting the default Minimum separation to zero or any value you may want...

  6. #6
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    Jan 2001
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    Rochester, NY
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    Tim,
    THANKS for another great tip! Setting the minimum separation to 0 provides some great flexibility for creating doorways.

    I just used your idea to create an opening that has 18” rectangular doorways on each end for columns and a taller 6’ elliptical arched doorway in the center. With the minimum separation set to 0 it eliminates the small wall segments and makes a great looking arched opening with columns.

    This eliminates the need to do a workaround in the cross section view and gets rid of the threshold problem you end up with if you drag up a door.

    Thanks again for another great tip.

    Regards… Bob

 

 

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