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Thread: Research: Text and Callouts
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02-07-2008, 03:33 PM #16
Barb,
i quit using leaders, too slow, I just use a line on the current layer, with no arrowheadLast edited by slatta; 02-07-2008 at 03:37 PM.
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02-07-2008, 04:33 PM #17Registered User Promoted
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1. Show text size in the format you type it without using the numstyle button....which is global. EG. On layout, I use text size of .1....it doesn't display that way. It should, regardless of numstyle setting.
2. To Upper / to lower to change the case of text as reqd.
3. Text leader matching text layer
4. "Smart text/leader"....you should be able to define default layers for annotation (text/leaders, dimensions) attached to objects in the object specification. Any text "attached" to that object is automatically placed on the default text layer for that object.
EG....if you work with base cabinets, a default layer for text objects (text and leaders) could be set in the base cabinet default dialog on a new "annotation" tab. If the leader is started on or near (user defined proximity) a base cabinet, the text and leader would automatically be placed on the default text layer for the base cabinet.Al Frey
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02-07-2008, 07:43 PM #18I am also forever turning on text layers that I don't want on when adding text to different layer sets. I set up different text layers on each layer set that I work on. Each time I change layer sets I also must change my text layer. It would be nice to text default to each layer set automatically. This also would be good for default cad layer assigned to a layer set, also dimensions.
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02-08-2008, 06:54 AM #19
1 - The ability to create text by first drawing the shape of the desired text box. I spend an awful lot of time zooming out, grabbing the far edge, dragging it in...
2 - Then have user controlled options for Chief to place the attachment point of the leader arrow where we want. Vaguely centered is not correct, unless there's a vertical line "gathering" the whole note. It should attach centered on the first line if at left, centered on the last line if at right.
3 - For leader with note at left, option to have it left justify and the leader come to the end of the last line.
4 - For when the arrow is added after text place - Barb's check box for left or right.
5 - Bold, underline, etc - within the text. Also, bullets, indents and numbered lists please.
6 - Callouts obey the default text layer setting.
7 - Similar to Perry's and Kelly's above - maybe an auto complete thing like Word has would work better? No need to go pull off a menu, just hit enter if it's guessing correctly - with it drawing from a list we create.
8 - Options for graphic appearance on callouts - solid fill for one.
9 - Persistent callouts & dimensions - like text on layout page 0. If we could put column designation lines and their tags, section tags, repeating notes, and some of the dimensions on layers that would display on all floor levels, that would be a great QC aid and time saver. I'm saying layers (as opposed to a new "floor level", because I'd like dimensions to be part of this, and they need to attach to something). Reference layer doesn't work because it only goes up or down one level, and we need it for other things.
10 - And of course, the holy grail, automatic linking of section or detail callout to the label on the detail, page number, etc. But, you're already doing that, right?
11 - and finally, my Pet Feature - a much much much faster way to change all the Annotation Defaults, and save them in collections of some sort - particularly default layers, but also size, arrow type & size, etc
Oops - almost forgot one!
12 - A smart text thing that gives a readout of sf for a polyline. I think you'd have to have the attached leader have it's other end glued to the polyline.Last edited by WendyWelton; 02-08-2008 at 06:57 AM.
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02-08-2008, 07:23 AM #20Administrator
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If I'm reading this right as a matter of priority it looks like making it easier to set the defaults (layer, font, size, etc.) for text is a higher priority than adding font runs. Is this correct?
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02-08-2008, 07:27 AM #21Originally Posted by pintodesign
Have you tried this lately? The leader layer changes automatically with the text layer. This was a "bug" that's been fixed.Richard
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02-08-2008, 07:27 AM #22habitual user
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Originally Posted by Doug ParkWarren Hirsch
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02-08-2008, 08:29 AM #23Originally Posted by Doug Park
I need to change the default text layer, dimension layer, and default cad layer sometimes as often as every 5or 10 minutes, and almost always as often as every half hour or so. Add the times I'm also changing from details to plan, with the changes is text and arrow sizes for both text and dimensions. It's an awful lot of clicks.Wendy Lee Welton
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02-08-2008, 08:29 AM #24Originally Posted by WHirschWendy Lee Welton
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02-08-2008, 08:46 AM #25
For me I think font runs means, the ability to save typical small phrases or whatever and insert them when needed. I'm always typing the same thing over and over again. a lot of $50 cad programs have this feature.
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02-08-2008, 09:18 AM #26Originally Posted by WendyWelton
I can live with the typing (though do like the font run idea) but the defaults issue is a major PITA.
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02-08-2008, 09:20 AM #27Administrator
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Sorry about the "technical speak". Font runs are what we say when we are talking about inline formatting of text with bold, italic, etc. along with size. We will try to keep that clear in future posts.
Doug Park
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02-08-2008, 09:38 AM #28
Dan,
Then yes, definately - for me, speed in changing defaults first.Wendy Lee Welton
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02-08-2008, 01:21 PM #29Registered User Promoted
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Perryh, Once you've typed something you shouldn't have to retype it. You can copy and paste from a saved doc file, save it on a layout page OUTSIDE the printable borders and pull it in when you need it, add it to the library in chief, even have standard layout pages and swap out the drawing by updating a viewport border or two.....
Wendy....Re QDJ....the difference between a dog and cat --> a dog says "you feed me and take care of me....you must be a god!".....a cat says "you feed me and take care of me....I must be a god!".....Al Frey
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02-08-2008, 01:35 PM #30
Al,
"Dogs have masters, cat's have staff". Actually, my cat thinks she's a dog, and we're not telling her the difference. Correction, I just asked her and she thinks she's both a dog and a god.
Dan,
If it really is an either/or choice, I'm bummed. I think the need to reduce the time it takes to change all those $*%^&#% defaults is urgent. I also think that it's a little bit silly that every other program in the world (or so it seems) has indents and bold and underlining and we don't.Last edited by WendyWelton; 02-08-2008 at 01:37 PM.
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