x1.4 noted problems

[louis]

Do both dimensions work to move the wall in these cases?

The answer is yes most of the time. However I have seen this flake out and not work to move the wall. This is stated in a previous post of mine. I cannot duplicate the problem I just know it happens.

The idea behind using the manual dimensions is that they probably locate what you want better than temporary dimensions.

I was picking up auto dimensions. Why would I want to reference my auto dimensions if I turned them off intentionally?

[cgirerd]

Louis - thanks for the demo. I tried it, but I don't get any more dimensions when I zoom in. I even zoomed way in. I think because it's an exterior wall.

I did a couple quick pics to illustrate my situation better.

Pic 1 shows the end of a sample house and a setback line in the backyard. The expected result of clicking on that wall should be a vertical dimension line of the room below the wall do I could adjust the exterior wall according to the specific interior dimension I need. That's my understanding of how I would expect the temp dims to work. In this pic, the manual dim. layer is turned off, but it shows anyway. As others have said, there's a reason we have them turned off - we don't want to see them. In my case, I have manual dims to reference setbacks. If I'm moving walls around and I'm within my setbacks, I don't want the dim. from the original wall to the setback line cluttering up my space. That's only reference for the building official on the existing site plan. Temp. dims should be independent of manual dims.

Pic 2 - It's bad enough for manual dims to come on when the layer is turned off, but this shows better the ridiculousness of them coming on when the item they reference is also turned off.

Pic 3 - shows the expected and desired result of clicking on a wall and getting temp dims. Except that I want that 6'-6 7/8" vertical temp dim to also show when I click on the exterior wall so I could move the exterior wall to resize the room to say, 10' on the interior. As it is now, I have to draw a manual dim, use it then delete it.

Pic 4 - Note that if I click on the exterior wall as shown in this pic, I do get a temp dim from the exterior wall to the interior wall. Only because in this sample plan I have no manual dim drawn to a setback on that side. But as soon as I dimension my setback line, I can't get temp room dims there either.

The problem, of course, is that I have dimensions from all the exterior walls to setback and/or property lines. It's one of the first things I do when putting in the existing house. So the current temp dim behavior means I can't get interior temp dims from clicking on any exterior wall.

So I strongly vote for disconnecting temp dim behaviors from manual dims.

Christina

[Larry Kumpost]

I was picking up auto dimensions. Why would I want to reference my auto dimensions if I turned them off intentionally?

For exactly the reason I noted. Temporary dimensions do not always use points that are useful for a specific task. There are times I may want to locate something properly but do not really need to show the dimension. If the plan is revised I may need to adjust the location of that object(s) and it is nice to get a dimension I can use.

Here is one other example. I will often send detailed plan views to Layout at larger scales, primarily for kitchen's and bath's... rooms with cabinets. I have a separate layer set for that because there is not enough room to show everything at normal plan view scale. I don't normally work in the detail view layerset but I can get those dimensions in any layerset when making revisions.

My question is, What is wrong with having a dimension that gives you exactly what you want pop up as a temporary dimension in lieu of a dimension with useless points. The way this has always worked is that you only get them if you add them. If there is a bug then fix the bug but I object to the change being suggested. I see that as a lost feature.

[ambrozac]

I was picking up auto dimensions. Why would I want to reference my auto dimensions if I turned them off intentionally?

Exactly. If I want to see them, I'll display the layer. If it's off, I want it to stay that way. A Temp. Dimension pops up, but without the clutter of other turned off dimensions.