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  1. #1
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    Roof isn't cutting railing

    I thought this was no longer a problem in X1.3.
    Anyone have the workaround for this? I need the roof to cut the railing wall as it would a 'normal' wall. Roof cutting framing option in .DBX does not do it.
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    Alan Michaud
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    Central Maine

  2. #2
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    No easy answer for this Chief just doesn't behave, there are workarounds, the key is to use wall breaks, read these posts.

    http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....hlight=railing[SIZE=2]

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  3. #3
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    Thanks archijef.

    Yeah, I've used the cut and knee wall method for some time now. Just thought it might be straightforward and functional in X1.

    Can anyone figure out why the software engineers would NOT let the rail be cut like any other wall? Is there a profound reason that my simple mind can't come up with to have a railing not be cut by a roof plane??
    Why is the railing a 'Special Case' here??
    Alan Michaud
    "Al"
    Central Maine

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    Mine was doing the same thing for a cabin. I just figured that Chief had a bug, and I was too lazy to break walls, and start making it look good.

    Customer never said anything about it, so looks like I'm in the clear so far.
    Jonathan

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    I would draw/build it like this..
    In real life are you going to have it come to a point?
    Seems harder to get water tight the other way..

    Railing material might work too..
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  6. #6
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    Wink

    Yes Allen,

    In real life the ballusters follow the under side of eace to the point of floor to rafter. They had a photo of a place they saw within their specifications for me to go by.

    No need to water tighten anything up there. It's an open porch over an open porch.


    I scanned the photo they gave me and it became a PDF. Unfortunately it came to 160kB and we have a 100kB limit.

    You can take my word for it. There is a Chalet out somewhere that has double deck/porch and the railing tapers under the rafter.

    Hmm? I wonder what kind of saw one would suggest to the carpenter for cutting that invisble wall?
    Alan Michaud
    "Al"
    Central Maine

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    Yeah - whether it's a "bug" or a "shortcoming", railings don't cut at roofs.

    As a workaround, I put my interior railings on a separate layer from the exterior ones, and shut them off for exterior views.

    Feel free to write to tech support and let them know that this is cramping your style!
    Wendy Lee Welton
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  8. #8
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    the blind leading the deaf?

    hmmm...some really elegant solutions here by the users to a problem that never should have existed to begin with...

    I use the kneewall approach too...a full wall on the side, and then break the wall and change it to railing once railing height is achieved...i make a unique wall type to denote railings so from the plan view it looks like all one wall, but in 3D you have that little triangle wall piece...its been like this since V6 which is when i started using CA.

    hello? Chief engineers? hello? anyone? ...(echo...echo...echo...)
    Matthew
    Chief Architect X3
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    If you want a good work around for the picture.
    Take a snapshot of it in the pdf,paste it in X1 and export that picture to post here..
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    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

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    Chief Architect X4






  10. #10
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    Talking



    Chief can do that?

    I gotta try it!

    brb
    Alan Michaud
    "Al"
    Central Maine

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    Allen!

    You da Man!

    I was laughing so hard after I read your post ....

    .. you can see from the attached jpeg of a pdf that was created by scanning in an 8 1/2 x 11 page on our 36 inch wide scanner, it is not perhaps often but very much real that railings do go up under the rakes.

    (the picture quality was really good originally and in color, the only scanner anyone can get to work around here is the wide format B&W, the numerous all-in-ones that have color capability ---- nobody can figger out)
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    Alan Michaud
    "Al"
    Central Maine

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    Just X1 can do the paste from a copied picture or what ever..
    I think this is a very handy tool..

    Railing should get cut off,but for now..
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    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

    Drafter for:
    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

    Chief Architect X4






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    More than one way to skin Wendy's cat
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    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

    Drafter for:
    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

    Chief Architect X4






  14. #14
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    The ability to have roofs and stairs cut railings has been in our database for a long time. This is relatively high on my wish list for X2.
    Dan Park,
    Special Projects Director,
    Chief Architect

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    Max:

    Please report back in a few months and let us know how you like Softplan.

    I will say that Chief ver 10 is far better than ver 9.5 and I think X1 is going to be even better. I'm doing a project in ver 9.5 now and it is like working with an antique.

    Lew
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    CHIEF X5 (started with v9.5)

 

 

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